HomeMy WebLinkAboutConservation Comm 11/08/1977CONSERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
November 8, 1977Ak 1
Commissioners: Frederick J. Rys, Chairman, Paul F. Boyden, Vice -Chairman;
Doris Webb and Stuart Sweet
The meeting opened at 9:52 p.m. A quorum was not present at 7:30 p.m. and two
Wetland Protection Act Hearings were held at 8:00 and 8:30 p.m. Minutes were
read and accepted. Motion by Doris Webb and second by Paul Boyden.
Mr. Rys reported that HEP is primarily geared to large-scale projects, such as
reservoirs. The gentlemen he spoke to could not answer all of Mr. Rys's questions
because the program is still in the formative stages.
Correspondence:
1. Copy of letter to Board of Selectmen from Attorney Grady, dated November 1,
1977, re: land court petition of Norman Gray and the Great Woods.
2. Letter from Foxboro Planning Board to Foxboro Zoning Board of Appeals,
dated November 4, 1977, re: Hathaway and Patterson Company lumber storage and
possible pollution to the Rumford River.
3. Secretarial voucher from October 4th to November 7, 1977 for $93.00.
Motion to accept by Stuart Sweet, second by Paul Boyden.
4. Letter from Wading River Reservoir Company, dated October 26, 1977,
requesting copies of Notices of Intent from Norman Gray submitted to Commission.
A letter will be sent to WRRC stating it's the policy of the Commission to notify
abuttors for a Wetlands Hearing.
5. Letter to Nowell Bloomenthal, Attorney in Waltham, from Preston Hood,
dated October 27, 1977, re: title search for Sweet property.
6. Letter from Board of Selectmen to Paul Boyden, dated October 31, 1977,
re: Provost matter.
7. Letter from Executive Office of Environmental Affairs, Evelyn Murphy,
re: self-help selections and programs.
8. Bond release to T.L. Edwards for $30,000, dated October 28, 1977, for
excavation of Kingman Pond.
9. Letter from Margot Jellinek, dated November 1, 1977, re: small backhoe
on School St, in possible violation of Wetlands Law. A letter will be written
to David White asking him to attend November 22nd meeting for an explanation.
Mr. Rys viewed the property of Donald Defleths, 868 West St. for possible violation.
However, he reported that the area is muddy, but the road is not cut into wetlands.
Mr. Rys met Wednesday, November 2nd, with the Board of Selectmen for discussion
of the budget. Mr. Rys corrected a statement by the Selectmen which said funds
returned from Self -Help program for the purchase of conservation land have gone
into the Land Acquisition Fund. Mr. Rys told them that the money goes into the
General Fund --not Land Acquisition Fund.
The subdivision plan for Hobbit Hollow was reviewed and a letter sent to the
Planning Board stating that a Wetlands Hearing will be required. The sub-
division plan for Granda Park was reviewed and an on-site inspection was made
\ by Mr. Rys and Mr. Sweet and it was determined that no Wetlands Hearing will
be required?i` The septic plan for 40 Maverick Drive was reviewed and a letter
was sent to the Board of Health stating that a Wetlands Hearing will be required.
\\\ Meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M. Motion by Doris Webb and second by Stuard Sweet.
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Wetlands Protection Act Hearing Continuation File: SE211-35
Department of Public Works Rt. 495
November 8, 1977 8:30 P.M.
Commissioners: Frederick J. Rys, Paul F. Boyden, Doris Webb, Stuart Sweet
DPW Reps: .Frank Burke, Dave Chareth, Buzz Gruhn
Others: Marydee Flynn and Louis Andrews, GWSC; Margot Jellinek•; Alan Willis
Mr. Rys told the DPW reps that the main reason for a continuation is to review
the hydrologic studies. There was also a discrepancy with pipe size.
The actual pipe size is a 72", although on one plan it shows 54". Q is quantity.
Q will be 218 cfs, approximately 80 less than Mr. Willis is getting now. The
orange portion is being picked up in a closed system and sent to the Rumford
River. There will be 1/3 less water. Originally it was 300 cfs and now 220 cfs,
based on a 50 year storm. That's the volume at that point, when the storm comes.
Mrs. Webb asked the computation for a 100 -year storm. Mr. Gruhn answered that
a 100 -year storm had not been calculated. Mr. Chareth said to add about 15%.
Mr. Gruhn explained that the route of water from Forbes, Railroad., School
St, remains the same. The drainage on School St, is a stream that gets into
the swampy area. The State is still doing the same thing. They put a new
system in &>jn School Street and discharge where old School St. meets new School
St. The arrows show the direction of the flow into the pipe.
Nothing will be added to the Rumford River. The water will get there faster
through the closed system. Ramp B will turn into the system. Drainage on
f the side leading from Ramp off South Main St. to Relocated Rt. 140 will
eventually discharge into a ditch and up to a 48" pipe. Drainage along
slope goes into sedimentation pool. Sedimentation pools are used during
and after construction. 90% will runoff on paved ground and only 30% will
runoff on grassed areas.
Mr. Sweet and Mrs. Jellinek asked the total cubic feet of extra water into
Rumford River after road is built and at what rate, plus considering the loss
of a swamp which will alleviate some of the water. Mr. Gruhn replied 800 cfs
total to the River. Mr. Willis stated that the topo as shown by the State
is incorrect. Mr. Gruhn said the velocity to the River will be 3.76' per sec.
which is considered slow for a channel. The water depth will be 6.3'. It is
2.5' now. The amount of water remains the same; it will only travel faster.
Salting of roads and the overpass through the Great Woods were not discussed
because they are separate issues. Mr. Chareth only said to Mrs. Flynn and
Mr. Andrews that the DPW would like a physical committment from Mansfield.
Mr. Willis asked about the aesthetics and errosion considerations and how the
slopes will be cut. Mr. Chareth replied that after a year or two, the State
returns with a planting contractor.
Mrs. Webb asked what the Corps of Eng. and Dept, of Interior, Fish and Wildlife
Division required from the DPW. Mr. Burke replied that the Fish & Wildlife Division
required a dam in the Rumford River to help the fish in spawning.
The hearing ended at 9:38 p.m.
Wetlands Protection Act Hearing File: SE 211-36
Angelo's Sub Shop, Jay Howland and/or Brian McLaughlin
648 Pleasant Street, Brockton
Purpose: Drainage of surface water.
The hearing was held on November 8, 1977 at 8:00 p.m. at the Mansfield Town
Hall. Mr. Jay Howland was present to answer any questions. Members from the
Commission present were Frederick J. Rys, Chairman; Stuart Sweet, Doris Webb.
Paul Boyden was present but had to leave the room to prevent conflict of
interest.
Mr. Howland explained that the building size is 32x40' and is located at 72
Copeland Drive. Septic plans have been approved by the Board of Health.
Sinks will go into a 1,000 gallon grease pit. The drainage will be pitched
to the rear of the property since the State will not allow drainage onto
Rt. 140. Rt. 140 cannot hold anymore surface water. Abuttor, Mr. Souza,
has given an easement right to drain water.
Mr. Rys asked if there will be any salt. Mr. Howland replied that they will
be using sand for the parking lot.
Mrs. Jellinek suggested an oil trap located in the rear through which the
drainage will go. The trap will collect oil before it drains into the swamp.
She said only one will be needed and that they are not expensive.
Mrs. Webb asked Mr. Howland if there will be a problem draining to one spot.
r._ He replied no. There will be tar surround the building. The parking lot
will be in front and the cars will drive to the rear, around the building
and then exit.
Hearing ended at 8:20 p.m.