HomeMy WebLinkAboutMaster Plan Council 11/19/1987Date of Meeting
Members Present:
TOWN OF MANSFIELD, MASSACHUSETTS
50 West Street, Mansfield, MA 02048
MASTER PLAN ADVISORY COUNC �ECI i9h,
MINUTES OF MEETING
November 19, 1987
Kelli Baker
Stuart Sweet
William Madan
Richard Gordon
Carlene Dezotell
Ralph Seifert
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM.
Allen Willis
Carlotta James
Carl Nelson
Paul Folkman
Edward Broderick
Michel LaCasse
A motion to approve the minutes of the October 22 meeting was
made by Allen Willis and seconded by Ralph Seifert and passed
by a unanimous vote.
Correspondence
A memo dated October 28, 1987, from Carol Ferris, Secretary, to all
Master Plan Advisory Council Members enclosing minutes of the
October 22 meeting.
A note dated November 4, 1987, from Kelli Baker to all Members of
the Master Plan Advisory Council postponing the meeting of
November 5 to November 12.
A letter dated November 12, 1987, from Kelli Baker to all Members
of the Master Plan Advisory Council, informing them of the meeting
on November 19, 1987 and enclosing an article to the press to
be considered by Council Members.
A letter dated October 27, 1987, from Mansfield Life Care
Associates regarding creating a Continuing Care Retirement
Community in Mansfield.
A memo dated October 27, 1987, from Joan Cutillo, Acting Town
Manager, to all Department Heads informing them of a staff
meeting on November 3, 1987.
A memo dated November 3, 1987 from Michel LaCasse to all
Departments, Boards and Committees regarding the Master Plan
Survey results.
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Correspondence (con't.)
Letters dated November 10, 1987, from Michel LaCasse to the
following:
Professor Andrew Sum
Northeastern University
Mr. Douglas Carnahan, Demographer
Metropolitan Area Planning Council
Tufts University Planning & Development
Mr. Thomas Pisaturo
SRPEDD
State Data Center
Executive Office of Communities & Development
University of Massachusetts
Center for Massachusetts Data
University of Massachusetts
Center for Economic Development
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Urban Studies and Planning
requesting their technical assistance in evaluating the validity
of the survey form, the sampling and distribution methodology,
and the results compiled.
Presentation from Connery Associates
Kelli Baker introduced all members of the Master Plan Advisory
Council to Mr. Bob Gatineau of Connery Associates.
Mr. Gatineau began by giving a slide presentation of aerial
photos of the town of Mansfield. Several potential problems that
come with the rapid growth of a town were pointed out by
Mr. Gatineau.
A brief analysis of the Trends Extended followed.
Several large maps were then presented and explained by Mr. Gatineau
including the McConnell Survey Map, the USGS Map, showing Natural
Features of the town, an overall Land Use Map, a Zoning Map, and
a map combining the existing land use and the developable land.
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Presentation by Connery Associates (con't.)
Several points were discussed by Mr. Cat ineau; some of which were:
Timing
Timing is programming for the future -- trying to realize when
this development is going to occur. Mr. Gatineau noted that
from now until 1995 there will be a lot of residential growth
continuing to occur in Mansfield at a very brisk pace.
Impacts
1. Schools - The effect of this growth on the school
system in the sense of trying to project enrollment
into the future was discussed. It was noted that in
the peak year 2000 the capacity would be exceeded by
approximately 61%.
2. Water - Projected water use and average daily water
consumption was discussed. It was pointed out that
Mansfield is almost at capacity now, and that new wells
will have to be built to keep up with the continued
growth in the town.
3. Sewer - It was noted that if no one else was using
Mansfield's treatment plant, with its present capacity,
in approximately 1997 the plant would need to be
expanded.
4. Traffic - The impact on traffic expansion was briefly
discussed. It was explained that within the planning
areas, the average daily trips that were made on the
major roads were totaled.
Questions and/or Comments
Some questions and/or comments from members of the Council concerning
Connery's presentation were as follows:
A question was raised as to the possibility of buildout
being shown in acres as opposed to being shown in square
feet.
Mr. LaCasse explained that Connery Associates job was
to look at what was available in terms of acreage;
whether it is going to happen or not.
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Questions and/or Comments (con't.)
Mr. Catineau noted that the Findings Report is market
sensitive. He feel the figures are very reasonable.
A question was raised as to whether wetlands and
roadways that effect buildable areas have been
considered. Mr. Catineau noted that wetlands and
roadways have been considered in the entire process.
A question was raised as to whether a higher buildout
figure would be more realistic. Mr. Catineau noted
that Connery Associates feels a more conservative
figure is more realistic for a variety of reasons.
Some questions that were raised by members of the audience were:
Could the vacant land abutting the airport be a
potential problem in the future? Mr. Catineau noted
that if in the future it was decided by the airport
authority and the town to make use of some of that
property for airport -related activities, one of the
things that would have to be considered would be
going through local streets and neighborhoods to get
to and from the property.
How does the airport effect the town? Mr. Catineau
noted that although there are positives and negatives,
he felt that the airport does have a positive aspect
for industry.
Is Connery taking into consideration the replacing of
existing structures? Mr. Catineau noted that this is
an issue that will be taken up.
Based on the information that Connery has on school
projections, do they feel it is necessary to construct
a new school? Mr. Catineau stated that Connery felt
that the School Department sees a need for a new school.
As the growth continues, in the peak year of 2000, the
school system would be over capacity by about 61%.
Has this report taken into consideration the changing
economy? Mr. Catineau stated that this report really
does not take into consideration the changing economy.
It takes into consideration what has been generally
happening over the past six to eight years.
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Questions raised by audience members (con't.)
What recommendations do you have to help neighborhoods
that abut the Industrial Park? Mr. Catineau noted
that at this point in time Connery was not ready to
address those recommendations; although, one
alternative that may be considered to help these
neighborhoods would be rezoning.
Kelli Baker then stated that she felt Connery Associates' report
was a job extremely well done. She asked Mr. Catineau what the
time frame would be to go on from here? Mr.Catineau suggested
scheduling the next meeting of the Master Plan Advisory Council
on December 10.
Summarization of Some Problems
Mr. Catineau then summarized the following problems:
1. Loss of character/identity
2. Loss of open space
3. Enormous pressure on older neighborhoods -
how to preserve and protect them
4. Diversify housing and make it affordable
5. Pressure on the water supply
6. Maximize financial benefits to the town -
minimize the need for public expenditure
Mr. Catineau stated that Connery Associates will return and present
alternatives to the Trends Extended and they will show how these
alternatives meet various goals in different ways.
A roundtable discussion followed. Some points that were discussed
were:
What supply sources other than ground water are being
considered? Mr.Catineau explained that Connery
wants to be. sure that total growth in the future is
within the capacity of the present ground water system.
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Roundtable Discussion (con't.)
Were trends looked at regarding the effectiveness on
other town services? Mr. Catineau stated that these
trends have not been looked at as yet. The Fire
Department will be looked at in as far as where an
additional fire station might be needed.
An issue was raised that between now and when a
package is prepared for Town Meeting, much of the
open space on the map may be blueprinted. Are
there any types of activities that the Council,
along with the Planning Board, can take to be a
consulting board to look at case-by-case pieces
that are being consideredfor development?
Mr. Catineau noted that there are several things
that may be done -- none of which he felt were ideal.
1. One approach would be to quickly come up with
interim zoning for the period that the Master Plan
is being done.
2. The second, more radical approach would be a
temporary moratorium.
Connery Associates is willing to look at some interim
approaches as this is a big problem when doing a master
plan.
A motion was made by Mr. Gordon to see figures reflecting_
the difference in Connery's buildout as opposed to IEP's
buildout. Mr. Catineau stated that he stood by Connery's
numbers and he felt it would be a mistake to compare them
with IEP's. Mr. Gordon then withdrew his motion.
Ms. Baker then noted that she felt Connery's report was fairly
dramatic and extremely informative. She asked if anyone knew of
an inexpensive way to have this report copied and made available
to the public. It was decided that Connery Associates would edit
the report down to approximately five to six pages and Mr.LaCasse
would look into the possibilities of having copies made. The
possibility of editing Connery's presentation down to approximately
30 minutes and airing it on Cable 8 or making the video tape
available was also discussed.
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Old Business
No old business was discussed.
New Business
A motion was made by Mr. Folkman to invite the Mansfield Life
Care Associates to come before the Master Plan Advisory Council
to discuss their concept. The motion was seconded by Mr. Seifert
and passed unanimously, with Mr. Willis abstaining. It was also
noted that the Planning Board and the Board of Selectmen would
be invited to attend this meeting.
A question was raised by a member of the audience as to whether
the Council would be interested in hearing from anyone who has
land up for rezoning. Kelli Baker stated that the Council
cannot support or condemn zoning amendments until the final
Master Plan. The Council is interested in concepts, not
rezoning. Consideration would be made on a case-by-case
basis as to hearing presentations on concepts for land
available for development.
Ms. Baker's letter of November 12, 1987, addressed to the Press,
for review by Council Members was discussed. A motion was made
by Mr. Seifert to send the letter to the Mansfield News and the
Sun Chronicle with some suggested corrections. This motion was
seconded by Mr. Madan and passed by a ten -to -one vote.
Audience Questions/Comments
Mrs. Carol Gordon read a prepared statement regarding her
dissatisfaction with the Master Plan Advisory Council concerning
several issues.
The date of the next Master Plan Advisory Council meeting was
set for December 10, 1987, at 7:30 PM.
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 10:10PM by Mr. Seifert
and seconded by Mr. Folkman and passed by a unanimous vote.
Respectfully submitted,
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Carol Ferris, Secretary
cc: Michel LaCasse, Planning Director
Planning Board/Board of Selectmen
Joan Cutillo, Acting Town Manager