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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning 04/27/1970AGENDA 4/2$/70 1. Call to order 2. Clerk's Report A. Minutes of April 61 1970 B. Correspondence 3. Circulation and �pproval of Warrant 4. Visitors) Agenda A. 9:30 PM-- State Representative Ajeixo to view Cooper Gravel Pit S. 01d Business A. Plans to be signed a. Cooper Gravel Pit b. Metters Plan B. Water and Sewer Committee Report 6. New Business A. Plans submitted for first examination a. 13.03$ acres belonging to Copeland Realty Trust b. Leon Orant Crpedom'Street 44,752 S. F. B. Around the table 7 Adjournment PLANNING BOARD MINUTES April 27, 1970 The Mansfield Planning Board met at the Mansfield Town Hall on Monday, April 27, 1970. Present: Chairman Mendes, Clerk Latham and Planners Nelson, MacFarlane, and Wojtkewitcz. Meeting called to order at 7:40 PM. Motion by Planner Latham seconded by Planner MacFarlane to go into Executive Session for the purpose that discussion will probably have some affect on the financial status of the Town of Mansfield, all in favor. Motion by Planner Latham seconded by Planner MacFarlane to close the Executive Session, all in favor. Minutes were read from the meeting of April 6, 1970. Motion by Planner MacFarlane, seconded by Planner Latham to accept the minutes all in favor. Invitation was received from the Mansfield Civic Association to attend a buffet meeting on April 26, 1970 to hear a speakir on the drug problem. Notice was received from the Board of Appeals regarding a hearing on the application of Paul E. Cooper for a permit to remove gravel; hearing May 4, 1970 at 8:1$ PM. Memo was received from the Town Manager regarding a meeting with Whitman & Howard on April 28, 1970 to discuss the water supply. Motion by Planner Nelson seconded by Planner Wojtkewitcz to sign the Warrant for $99.7$, all in favor. Planner Latham reported to the Board on a Ad Hoc Sewer Meeting with Representatives from Norton, Foxboro, and Mansfield. B»t Nash was elected Chairman and Planner Latham Vice -Chairman. They will meet two times a 6th. At their next meeting they will hear a speaker from the State on ,Pollution. Motion by Planner Latham seconded by PTAnner MacFarlane to sign a -plan for J. William Metters for tw9;;; lots on West Street;' Lot 1-103,000 sq. ft. Lot 2-34,2$0 sq. ft, all in favor. Mrs. Margot Jellinick and Representative Alexion met with the Board to view the Cooper Gravel Bank. Motion by Planner Nelson seconded by Planner MacFarlane to sign a plan for a gravel bank for Paul Cooper on West Street. Planner Wojtkewitcz abstained and will not sign until such time as zoning by law is updated. Planner Wojtkewitcz reported to the Board on a letter from the Bristol County Commissioners regarding Canoe River Flooding. Planner Nelson told the Boar k�e felt plans should be received from Cabot, Cabot and Forbes and 10 f to show us what they have planned, and what is being done. Motion by Planner Latham seconded by Planner Nelson to,.iadjourn, all in favor. Meeting adjourned at 10:30 PM. April 27, 1990 MEETING TO DISCUSS REST AREA ON R2UTE-195 Present: Department of Public Works Robert Richardson and Robert Tierney Department of Community Affairs, Warren Dillon CPlanning Board Members Chairman Mendes, Clerk Latham and Planners Nelson, MacFarlane, and Wojtkiewitcz. Town Manager Rolfe Camp Selectmen Zecher and Conroy Finance Coimnittee Chairman Lindner and Richard Carey Board of Assessors Robert Eames Building Inspector Joe Chalifoux Representative for Senator Quinlin David Alperin MDPW Taunton Mike Mahoney Recreation Committee Louis Cinelli Town Manager Rolfe Camp introduced to those present Robert W. Richardson from the Department of Public Works who is heading up the project. Mr. Richardson: I am the Roadside Development Engineer working directly under Robert Tierney. What we want to do is have elected officials representing the State and Town of Mansfield aware of what the public hearing is all about and to enlist your support at the public hearing. will explain in detail what we are proposing. Step number one is to have a rest area big enough to handle trafficetwenty years hence and probably have information center for motorist. The information center will not be part of the public hearing next month. The proposal is to provide a>section of the highway which will eventually house information area. The location is just north of North Attleboro line in the gravel section of Mansfield. This site was selected for a number of reasons. It is undeveloped as far as buildings and the space between the interchanges. We have been looking for a site on the Boston Road and .it is between Route 495 and 295 and it meets the spacing changes for deceleration and acceleration lanes. It seems to fit our proposal as far as distance and ;general overall location for the interstate highways. At this public hearing we will have a large scale plan on display on how much property is going to be taken and the land dimension area. Information on the information site will be indefinite. George Wojtkiewitcz-Planning Board: I have a question ori the location of the rest area. You want to have it between Routes295and 495. It is rather interesting to me that you say an interstate traveller is going to want, to rest before he goes on to Route 495, if he does have to go there. Suppose a person travelling through Providence goes into Boston. The proposed rest area is nearer to Rhode Island. On the other hand suppose a person gs going from the South of Route 495. Is he going to want to stop after going through Providence and before going to Route 495? I wonder is thas'the best spot? Wouldn't Milford of, Bellingham be better? Will you have the same rest area on the other side? Robert Tierney: Long range planning is to have this type of rest area with samitary facilities in other locations. We will eventually have an information building where travellers can go to find out where to stay and places to go. So we hope to have seven to nine of these areas around the State. We feel this location is critical because eventually a lot of people will by-pass Providence. Present April 27 1970 MEETING TO DISCUSS REST AREA ON ROUTE -195 Department of Public Works Robert Richardson and Robert Department of Community Affairs, Warren Dillon Planning Board Members Chairman Mendes, Clerk Latham and Nelson, MacFarlane, and Wojtkiewitcz. Town Manager Rolfe Camp Selectmen Zecher and Conroy Finance Committee Chairman Lindner and Richard Carey Board of Assessors Robert Eames Buildin Ins ector Joe Chalifoux Tierney Planners g P Representative for Senator Quinlin David Alperin MDPW Taunton Mike Mahoney Recreation Committee Louis Cinelli Town Manager Rolfe Camp introduced to those present Robert W. Richardson from the Department of Public Works who is heading up the projects Mr'. Richardson: I am the Roadside Development Engineer working directly under Robert Tierney. What we want to do is have elected officials representing the State and Town of Mansfield aware of what the public hearing is all about and to enlist your support at the public hearing. I`wi.11 explain in detail what we are proposing. Step number one is to have a rest area big enough to handle traffic:twenty years hence and probably have information center for motorist. The information center will not be part of the public hearing next month. The `proposal ,is to; provide a; section of the highway which will eventually houseinformation area. The location is just north of North Attleboro line in the gravel section of Mansfield. This site was selected for a number of reasons. It is undeveloped as far as buildings and the space between the interchanges.' We have been looking for a site on the Boston Road and it is between Route 495 and., 295, and it meets the spacing changes for deceleration and acceleration lanes. -It seems to fit our proposal as far as distance and general overall' location for the interstate highways. At this public hearing we will have a large scale plan on display on how much property is going to betaken and the land dimension area. Information on the information site will be ;indefinite. George Wojtkiewitcz-Planning Board: I have a question on the location of the rest area. You 'want to have it between Routes 295 and 495• %It is rather` interesting to me that, you say an interstate traveller is`going ,'to want to rest before he goesonto Route 495, if he does have to go there. Suppose`a person travelling through Providence goes into Boston. The proposed rest area is nearer to Rhode Island. On the other hand 'suppose a person 3s going from the South of Route 495• Is he going to want to stop after going through Providence and before going to Route 495? I"wonder ''is thisthe' best spot? Wouldn't Milford oi'Bellingham be better? Will you have the same rest area on the other side? Robert Tierney: Long range planning is to have this type of'rest .area with samitary facilities in other locations. We will eventually have an information building where travellers can go to find out where to stay and places to go. So we hope to havesevento nine of these areas around the State We feel this location is critical because eventually a lot of people will by=pass -Providence. Selectman Zecher: I think this is an excellent location. There is one over by Sturbridge and on the Pittsfield line. Jscar Lindner Finance Committee: This is a long range plana Is this going to be used with other 'plans for Howard Johnsons `-to`be associated with you? Robert Tierney: We cannot put in any kind of concession, we cannot sell anything. The information site will be handled by a private concern with the hope they will get enough tourist advertising. Assuming all goes well this would be a permanent building with a rest area built by the State attached to this building. Inside the building would be advertising. A portion of the building would be set aside for State information. The grounds would be maintained by the State. The building would be maintained by the people who operate the building. Robert Mendes, Planning Board: There is also talk you would have space for overnight camping. Robert Tierney: No. Joseph Chalifoux, Building Inspector: This is similar to a portion of Route 93 going to New Hampshire. The Federal Government supports this and they do have sites for this. Robert Eames Assessor: Is this building taxable? Robert Tierney:No, it will be owned by the Commonwealth. This proposal is much more elaborate than what New Hampshire has. They have proposed `,hat q0% of the space be for public advertising. In the building there- will be open lines to the Department of Commerce and Development. This is one of the big selling points. Warren Dillon: I am with the Division of Tourisim. I am working very closely on this idea with the Department of Public Works and the Department of Commerce and Development,.,,;,,, We have been working on it for the last two and,`a half years. A very developed proposal was received to check and check locations to provide information to travellers. This is something being done on a nation wide basis. 'People are very happy with this in a number of different states. This is what got us going. They hope to locate on -a site available to them'. And in addition to spots mentioned on the map the Cape may want one of these. There is a good information center on the Circle in Hyannis. To operate such services it must be in the interest of helping visitors. The purpose of having them on highways is to provide him with information while he is there. It also gives him a chance to stop and have lunch. He may just be passing through on his first trip, but we have a chance to get him if he picks up a brochure. Someone headed to Maine for example may be quite happy to change his plans. Or we could influence him for his next trip. The traveller doesn't know what is 'available in the area. We want to give visitors good service while they are: here; This one outfit has made a darn good ;proposal to us. The Department of Public Works 3_ leases part of the area where the building would be to us, the Department of Commerce and Development. We in turn will then check the proposal and final _arrangements. The building would be put up by private company and would become property of Commonwealth if the lease terminates. The auilding would be manned seven days for nine hours a day, at least during prime periods. During slack season we might close it down. .Eventually we would have tourists year round. All advertising would be inside the building nothing would be allowed to show outside. We haven't settled what it will look like. Cleaning of rest rooms would be responsibility of private concern. We are going under contract terms now. Whatever space we have as State agency will be shared with local organization. George Woitkiewitcz: I have a question about the site. If you come up by Route 95 I think that area is part of good gravel pit. What will tired drivers corning in looking for a cool area find, nothing but desert in that spot. Warren Dillon: It will be landscaped and maybe it will look better in five or ten years. We would like to obtain this property this year and have building in service for next summer. David Alperin: Does that mean just physical plant? Warren Dillon: I mean operating. David Alperin: This won't cost the Town of Mansfield tax dollars, would they have to appropriate monies? Robert Tierney: No, tax income coining to town. Jarl Nelson: This means the State will take the land, individual put building on it and lease to State. Warren Dillon9 The State takes the property, the Department of Public Works installs facilities and parking area and also builds rest rooms. The Department of Public Works leases to the Department of Commerce and Development the privilege of erecting the building. We then have a private concern build the building at their expense. The company, whoever it turns out to be, will lease the privilege of being there from our Department for maybe a dollar. The building becomes property of the State. If the lease isbroken they would have to return area to the way in which it was kept before they came. Carl Nelson: This is going to be a nice business. We are getting nothing from'i.t at all. A nice being subsidized at the towns expense because of: the tax loss. Warren Dillon: This is part of a state wide system. We have one spot in: Sturbridge and we have had ;good experience with that.. If Mansfield does not feel it has any potential gains we could come back and discuss it at; another :time. `i The 1967 census shows 165 million dollars was received from three types of business in the State, hotels, motels, and attractions. Warren Dillon: Oscar Lindner: -4- Almost every place in Massachusetts has an opportunity. What would it cost? <obert Richardson: $500,,000 90% paid by Federal 10% by state. E. Paul Zecher: I am a little concerned about private concern. Have of having the state man this? Warren Dillon: Yes. We have had our two departments working together and the cost. We don't care to recommend that we furnish the staff. you thought on this E. Paul Zecher: If you are helping industry and motels and tourist attraction what kind of deal can you make with someone to run this? Warren Dillon: We think the deal is pretty even. They provide service and give us 40% of the area to put in our own advertising. David Alperin: If the advertising for non-commercial is 40%, if a town like Barnstable wants to put something in there, can they? Warren Dillon:,There is obviously this sort of opportunity. We do pay the staff that is in there. We provide brochures on everything for they visitor. We allow them to put in direct lines to motels or hotels. If is handled without state involvement. A company can make a little deal on that. David Alperin: Right now we don't have too much here to attract tourists. What kind of advertising could we hope to have? olfe Camp, Town Manager: If the Town of Mansfield had a brochure displaying the town you wouldn't have any problem, Oscar Lindner: Will there be an acess road to this? Warren Dillon: No, Federal Government Regulations will not allow it. E. Paul Zecher: Could any individual in surrounding areas put literature out? Warren Dillon: In the 40% area as long as it is non-commercial, Robert Richardson: The Federal Government says the information center must be operated in such a manner that it is clearly beneficial to the highway visitor. It is for the convenience of the travelling public. Warren Dillon: This is exactly what we have been discussing. We think this is -a very good situation. We hope that whatever firm does this will make aigood profit. We want a first class job. Further discussion was held which indicated that the State would pay the cost of extending water mains and power lines to the area. A suggestion was made that the building use electric heat. It was also suggested informally that the "gas, food, lodging" signs could be put up at the Route 140 exit on 95 at no cost as a trade-off to the town for the tax loss involved in the land taking. "fleeting adjourned at, 9:00 PM.