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Conservation Commission Meeting
December 5. 2005
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Present: Colin Cauldwell, Chair; Paul Boyden, Vice Chair; Carole Matthew; Jack Smith;
Marc Marcussen; Jerry 81. Hilaire; Cindy Ostrowski; Michele Grenier, Conservation and
Environmental Planner.
Ann McMenemy, ERM, Louis Masiello, WS Development, Dave White, Civil Engineer
for ESS, Jeff Bridge, Mason & Associates, Mark Beaudry, Meridian Associates and Jeff
Heidelberg were present.
Lou Masiello told the Commission that the project received ZBA approval this past
summer for the parking ratio. Mass Electric power lines will need to cross a small
portion of the zoning code landscape buffer and the ZBA approved. Also there was an
issue with some on-site soils in areas where construction will be in close proximity to but
is no longer an issue-this will have no impact environmentally.
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Lou said they had received unanimous approval of the site plan on a special permit
application in November from the Planning Board (the appeal period has run out).
He also said they have received the final certification from Mass Environmental Policies
Act Unit/Secretary of Environmental Affairs in late summer-this process is complete and
the appeal period has run out.
The Department of Environmental Protection issued a sewer connection/extension permit
for the public sewer infrastructure that the applicant is building at their expense. The new
sewer extension will service this project and will have the ability to service Cabot, Cabot
and Forbes as well as future projects. This is part of the Town's master plan for sewer
improvements in this area.
The Army Corps of Engineering has issued their approval for both the environmental
issues related to the wetlands and the relocation of the Stearns White house. They have
received a Memorandum Of Understanding (Mansfield Historical Society and Mass
Historical Society were also involved with this process).
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Ann McMenemy summarized the project from the initial filing, May 24, 2004, thru the
many changes that have occurred. The latest plans, dated 9/212005, include
modifications to ihe access to Route 140, relocated utility easement, the redesigned berm
and spillway and additional.mitigatin&measures and increases in wetland impacts.
,--. Ann McMenemy wanted the Commission to know that the Federal Wetlands Permit has
been issued and as soon as she receives the corrected permit she will send a copy to
Michele for our files.
She told the Commission they are waiting for the 401 Water Quality Certification. The
DEP performed a site review in July and had requested some additional analysis
information.
She wanted the Commission to know that all the boundaries were legally established in
an ORAD before the applicant became involved. The ORAD is still valid for another
year.
Impact Area #3-Mass Electric Easement:
Colin wanted to know where the Mass Electric easement goes, where the proposed
easement will be and the width. Ann told him that it was 50 ft. for both the existing and
proposed.
Paul wanted to know who proposed the relocation. Lou said that the relocation was done
at the applicant's request in order to develop the shopping center.
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Paul wanted to know what the process was for moving the poles. Lou said the
arrangement with Mass Electric involves paying them to build new poles and signing an
amended easement that moves the existing easement from its present location to the
perimeter of the site. This needs to be done so WS can develop the central portion of the
site. He does not feel the work to install these poles causes a wetland impact but if Mass
Electric comes back in the future and uses their ability, under the easement, to clear the
vegetation so it does not interfere with their power lines, this will clearly result in an
impact. So they have incorporated those areas into their permit even though they do not
think this will happen. They have provided mitigation for these areas.
Lou told the Commission that up to this time, Mass Electric has only cleared a small
portion of the easement, usually only 25 ft., not the 50 ft.
Lenny Flynn is concerned that the same thing will happen with this easement that has
happened in Great Woods. Mass Electric went off the easement in Great Woods along
the hiking trials. Paul agreed with Lenny and said there has been a problem like this on
Oak Street.
Lou feels they have accounted for the worst case scenario-assuming MECO does what
Lenny has seen at Great Woods-with the permit and mitigation.
Lenny also wanted to know why they couldn't put the electric underground.
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Lou said that MECO would not allow this because of the large number people it services
and the added time needed to bring the people up to service. Colin said it was a
maintenance issue.
Paul asked if the Planning Board needs to get involved with the relocation and Lou said
they have reviewed the location of the line and its interplay with landscaping buffers
intended to screen the property from the roadway to make sure there isn't a conflict.
Lenny wanted to know why it is better around the periphery instead of right straight thru.
Lou told him they would be building where the existing lines are (the lines presently bi-
sect the upland area).
Cindy asked why the lines couldn't go over this area. Lou explained that you can"t build
or put a parking lot under power lines. Landscaping (trees) and site lighting is also an
issue when you have overhead lines.
Paul wanted to know if Mass Electric would be supplying the electricity for the project.
Mansfield Electric will service the site; the only interaction with Mass Electric will be the
easement.
Carole wanted to know why MECO has the right to govern where these lines go.
Because they own the easement rights, they have that right.
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Colin asked Jeff Bridge if he had any comments.
Jeff said he would like to acknowledge the applicants for their professionalism. They
have been extremely receptive, very cooperative and respectful on every issue, even
though they haven't always agreed during this process. (The first letter in June of
comments and questions resulted in a meeting in July. The applicant addressed these
comments and Mason & Associates formulated a ~ response in September. In response
to the Sept. comments, the applicant addressed those comments and further revised the
plans, addressing the Route 140 issues and changes that were made to the mitigation and
buffer zone enhancement areas)
Jeff questioned the clearing of the 50 ft. easement. If only 25 ft. were cleared, it would
reduce substantially the impact on the wetland.
Ann said they had gone back to MECO and were told they had to work within the 50 ft.
Lou agreed with Jeff about clearing the 25 ft. and reducing the impact but MECO has the
fmal say. He explained that to ask MECO to take the 25 ft. instead of the 50 ft. is asking
them to take a narrower easement in this portion and in the future not having the rights
they have today in the 50 ft.
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Ann said that the impact numbers are for the assumption that the full width of the
easement will be cut at these wetlands impact areas. In most areas, only a small portion
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of the full easement width is actually maintained. She said that Wetland 1 has the most
value and function of all the wetlands and that the relocation of the existing poles from
this wetland will allow this area to revert back to wooded wetlands.
The Commission wanted to know the height of the poles. Lou said the parking lot poles
are 35 ft. but the pedestrian areas are shorter.
Lou reminded the Commission that over-all, the project respects the 25 ft. Ann said that
there is a greater than 2 to I mitigation ratio for wetland impacts on the site.
Impact # 13:
Cindy wanted to know why Mass Highway only granted a right-in and not a right-out for
Route 140.
Lou explained it would compromise the safety on Route 140 and the 495 southbound off
ramp because of inadequate sight distance. Cars needing to get to 495 southbound would
have to cross lanes of traffic to get into the left lane and cars in the left lane would need
to get into the right lane to get to 495 northbound.
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Colin wanted to know if Ann had accounted for the wetland under the parking lot-will it
still function? Ann said they are relocating the wetland and it will function, it will still
drain and flow toward the intermittent stream. She said that when she filed with the
Army Corps of Engineering/40 1 Water Quality that this wetland was counted as a
Federally Jurisdictional Wetland and is included in the mitigation numbers (the Federal
Wetland Impact number is higher than the state number).
Paul asked if soundings had been taken of the pond. Lou said there is information on
record that indicated its depth is between 16 ft. and 20 ft.
Colin asked the Commission if they had any questions or comments.
Michele said she would like to thank WS for working with Mason & Associates to get to
where this project is today. A lot of things have been change for the good of the project
and for Conservation. They have answered everything Jeffhas addressed and his
recommendations have been incorporated.
Jeff again said that all comments that Mason & Associates made have been addressed.
Colin wanted to know if they have been adequately addressed.
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Jeff said the only issue remaining, stated in the June and September letters and referenced
again in November, is the use of the pond for stormwater management. Jeff's position is
that it is an isolated water body- "we are going to be using the pond for stormwater
management purposes. Weare filling wetlands at the downstream end as a means to be
able to hold water in that basin. This is a change-stormwater isn't going there today".
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This will result in a minor increase in the water surface elevation during a storm event for
a short duration of time. Jeff said his interpretation of the regulation is that it is an
activity under taken by the applicant that will result in an alteration of a resource area.
The applicant's position is that it is not.
Jeff said they did a Stormwater Alternatives Analysis in July, looking at other alternatives
(sub-surface, surfitce detention, putting stormwater below ground under the parking lot)
to see what could be done to avoid using the pond for stormwater management. These
alternatives were evaluated in depth and determined by the applicant to be economically
not viable.
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Jeff explained that Land Under Water has a threshold of 5000 sq. ft. The Commission
can permit an alteration in excess of that threshold as long as it doesn't have an adverse
impact on the wildlife habitat. Jeff's position is that it is an activity, there is an alteration,
although it may be negligible and of short duration. Procedurally it should come under
Conservation's jurisdiction. He said the applicant feels the discharge of stormwater
runoff into the pond is not a regulated activity resulting in an alteration to LUW. Mason
& Associates continue to maintain that use of the existing pond for stormwater
management, regardless of it being the preferred alternative, constitutes a regulated
activity resulting in an alteration of a resource area. If it is actually an activity/alteration,
it should have an application fee (for activities resulting in the raising and lowering of the
water level in the pond) and a wildlife evaluation. A wildlife evaluation was done for the
streams but not the pond. The Commission would like an evaluation done for the pond
and its banks. Ann agreed and this will be done next spring. This should be added to the
Conditions.
Jeff said that Mason & Associates in not in a position to evaluate the financial viability of
the alternatives. With the exception of the use of the pond for stormwater management,
all the comments have been adequately addressed and incorporated into the plan.
Colin asked Ann if the use of the pond would alter the capacity as well as the water
quality. She said that the water (most of the runoff to the pond is from the School Street
improvements) is going to be treated. She said there would be an elevation in the pond,
amounting to 3 n for a 2 to 5 hour period during large storm events. Ann believes this will
not change the capacity of the LUW to provide important wildlife habitat functions
because the area will not change as a result of the temporary minor increases in the water
level in the pond after storm events.
Colin wanted to know if the crossing of the intermittent stream has been designed yet.
Ann told him the design of the stream crossings associated with the proposed project was
conceived almost a year ago, prior to the federal stream crossing guidelines that were
adopted in January of this year. When the Army Corps of Engineering issued the permit,
they did not hold the applicant to the new guidelines.
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,.,...-- Jeffwanted to point out to the Commission that the applicant deferred their response to
Mason & Associates comment to provide additional information regarding irrigation and
its effect on the pond. It was always purposed as an activity-to put in-take structures in
the pond for irrigation purposes but was never described in detail or defined. Lou agreed.
Ann said there is a proposal for irrigation. Lou explained that the Selectmen administer
the Water Conservation Policy rules. They want to minimize development usage of the
public water system. WS has an application before the Selectmen now. The Selectmen
are waiting for all the other permits to be issued before they hear WS.
Lou thinks the irrigation system from the pond is a great idea.
Colin wanted to know if the Commission has some input on what type of system is
installed.
Ann-This can be added to the special conditions of the permit.
Lou- The Commission has the authority to specify constraints such as the irrigation
system shall never drain the pond below a certain elevation and if it does it will
automatically shut off-applicant must design the system this way to prevent a draw down.
Colin asked the Commission members their thoughts on the project.
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Jerry feels it is a well thought out project but he has questions concerning the discharge to
the pond and the wildlife habitat.
Lou feels the even though a wildlife study has not been done, Ann has address this topic
extensively in the March 25th submittal.
Paul wanted to know if there was a sampling program set up to monitor the water quality
of the pond. Ann told him the water quality should not be an issue. Michele said the
Commission could require monitoring.
Carole thought the project was well thought out but she is stuck on the pond issues.
She also feels the buffer zone should have been 50 ft.-the project should not have gone
forward on a verbal conversation with Dick Lewis or a draft.
Colin would also have liked the 50 ft. set back on this project but the project was too far
along before the Commission said they would require the 50 ft.
Marc felt it was presented well and seemed to have the Mansfield residents in mind.
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Ann thanked Marc for his comment on the residents and said that the Commission can
write the Order of Conditions permit to make sure all the commitments made are
satisfied. Lou said this helps them, having a set of rules.
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Paul is not sure if it is a good or bad idea discharging into the pond. He said that you
have to maintain the water table, some control devise, somewhere. He would like the
Commission and Lou to draft a letter to DEP, the Utilities Commission and MECO, in
regards to what we want as far as the easement is concerned. It would go a long way in
straightening out the easement mess. Also to let them know the things that have occurred
have been detrimental to this site, Great Woods and Oak Street.
Paul thinks there should be a monitoring program for the water quality. How do you
maintain water quality when you don't know the source of the water going into the pond?
Ann said they are going on the assumption that the standards have been met (800.10)
therefore you will not have an adverse effect on the wetland resource areas from the
stormwater discharges to them. Ann said the monitoring program is not an unreasonable
consideration. She will get a base line before construction begins. Paul would like this
written in the Order of Conditions.
Colin wanted to know if there is a spray/low level toxicity program for invasive species.
Maybe this also should be written in to the Order.
Lou agreed that it should be included in the Order.
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Ann said an invasive species management plan has been prepared for the wetland
replacement and buffer enhancement areas to control the purple loosestrife and reed
canary grass. An annual monitoring program will be implemented and based on the
assessment, management options will be considered and implemented. She told the
Commission that there is some mechanical pulling and that herbicides are used (a spot
targeted treatment-cut the stem and injecting the herbicide into the stems, very spot
specific). The Army Corps monitoring plans are for 5 yrs. The Commission requires 2
yrs.
Marc asked Ann about the chemical and biological functions of the pond. She told him
she does not know if the pond stratifies but she suspects that it does. She will go out this
spring to document this factor about the pond as part of understanding the way it
functions. She feels the health of the pond should be evaluated post construction to see if
the system is working as predicted-if not we need to figure out why and make
corrections.
Cindy -the 50 ft. set back should have been acknowledged. She said that as a
Commission member, she would make sure that any new construction follows the 50 ft.
no touch. She would like to see a wildlife assessment done for the pond. The electric
easement-there has to be a better way to do this, instead of going around the perimeter.
She agrees with Paul about getting DEP, the Utilities Commission along with MECO
involved. There has to be a better way, maybe a combination of above and underground.
She would rather see it underground.
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has weighed in extensively, specifically for underground. There is no way MECO will
put the electric underground, they will say no to this project.
Lenny would like the 50 ft. tree buffer to be part of the Order of Conditions.
Dave White summarized the control devise and how the discharge will enter the pond.
The stormwater enters the site in 3 locations off School Street. Three Stormceptors will
be located along School Street to treat the stormwater prior to discharge into wetlands 4
& 5, thru the drainage ditch adjacent to the pond and then will enter the pond.
The stormwater management system does not rely on the use of any wetland resource
area as a stromwater basin. Peak discharge rates to all resource areas are at or below the
proposed normal water elevation. The elevations in the pond will remain the same as the
present level. They will not be lowering the pond. They are simply going to be holding
the water a little longer than normal and then releasing it. This will not increase the peak
discharge rate of runoff The stormwater will be treated to 8001'0 TSS removal prior to
discharge into the intermittent stream. The TSS removal will actually be higher because
of the addition of the 4 detention ponds proposed for the site (they were not counted).
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A manhole will be constructed on the existing pipeline, approximately 50 ft. from the
current outlet. Paul wanted to know what the function of the manhole would be. Dave
said it is a means to provide a change in direction.
All the retention basins are out of the 25 ft. and outside the wetlands.
Mark summarized the 4 remaining comments of the 1215/2005 letter. He said that the
issues have not necessarily gone away but they have been addressed, resulting in plan and
document changes, some of which were done today.
Comment #l-Alternatives Analysis-the change to the pond will result in the water table
fluctuating from 2 to 3.5 inches for the more frequent 2 year storm. Water is going into
the pond that wasn't going in before. The peak flow rates that are going into the pond are
actually less than the existing flow rates. The difference is that the water stage of the
pond is going up. This is not a result of an increase flow to the pond; it is the change to
the outlet structure and in the berming around the downstream end. The Alternatives
Analysis was suggested to look at what could be done so the pond level would not
mcrease.
Alternative 5-increase the amount of runoff from School Street, enlarge detention basin I
and adding 3 additional opened basins, allowing no increase to the pond. This alternative
would result in a loss of30,000 sq. ft. The reduction would make the project financially
not viable.
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combination with 1 surface basin. This would be a combination of pipe and stone
storage. The cost to construct the two additional subsurface detention basins represents a
significant increase in the overall construction costs, an increase between 23% and 30%,
making this alternative financially infeasible.
Comment #2 is in regards to the hydraulic calculations for School Street and Route 140
drainage improvements. The applicant has not really designed the stormwater
management system hydraulically for the School Street improvements. It is Mark's
understanding that the applicant has agreed to a potential condition of approval that
would require that John Sullivan review the hydraulic system when the design evolves to
the point that they can submit.
Comment #3-Basin 2 outlet structure currently is an orifice-basically a hole was cut thru
the concrete wall of the outlet structure. It is located on the very bottom of the basin,
which over time would be subject to flooding, etc. Mark: suggested a sump be
constructed in front of the orifice to manage any debris that might be collecting there.
The plan was change this evening to reflect this.
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Comment #4 concerns project phasing. Mark feels there is a need for more of a response
from the applicant as to how the phasing might be dealt with. The concern is that the
complete stormwater management system for a particular building phase, including its
associated detention basin, may not be fully installed as part of that phase if some of the
piping and the basin are located in a future phase area. Mark would like to make sure
that the plans state that the "stormwater management basins will be fully constructed, and
runoff from the work area will be temporarily or permanently routed to the completed
basin, prior to the construction on a phase that is proposed to contribute runoff to a given
basin". The Commission might want to have additional information in the conditions of
approval as well as documentation of the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan for the
project.
Mark also said that a comprehensive Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan should be
prepared for the project (because the project is disturbing more than a acre of land). The
applicant has prepare a good solid draft but the Commission may want to require, as a
condition, that when it is prepared and finalized, and when a contractor is on board (this
only has to occur 48 hours prior to the start of construction) that it be submitted to the
Commission for our records and review (when the Notice of Intent is sent to the EPA,
you only have to certify that a plan has been prepared, you don't actually submit the plan
to the EP A for review). He said that this is basically an instruction manual for how
erosion control and everything else is going to occur on this project. This will help
ensure that no short-term impacts will occur as the project is built. He also said that in
the June letter, it was stated that the erosion control was somewhat limited on the plans.
He wanted the Commission to know that the applicant has provided additional
information.
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conditioned and at the next meeting the conditions will be discussed with input from the
applicant. Lou asked that he and Ann be kept informed of the conditions bye-mail.
The meeting will be scheduled for December 12th at 6:30.
A motion was made to adjourn (Jerry-Carole) at 10: 10.
Next meeting will be December 12, 2005 at 6:30.
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