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Conservation Commission Meeting
February 9, 2004
Present: Paul Boyden, Chair; Carole Matthew, Chris Flass, Jerry St. Hilaire, Bob Bean
Richard Lewis, Conservation and Environmental Planner
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1. Self-Help Grant docwnents for King Property. Mr. Boyden signed the docwnents.
2. Discussion of potential warrant article for vehicles on conservation and town-owned
land. The Town Meeting warrant will close March 1,2004. Mr. Lewis presented a
copy of a Town of Foxboro warrant article regarding motorized vehicles on
conservation property. Mr. Lewis said he would draft an article for Mansfield and
submit it to town counsel and a nwnber of town departments for consideration. Mr.
St. Hillaire asked how enforceable such a bylaw would be; Mr. Lewis said it would
come under the Police Department, but it would allow the commission to warn people
about the potential consequences.
3. Mr. Lewis said he had spoken with Michelle Grenier, who plans to investigate the
land on Gilbert Street for possible vernal pools in the springtime.
4. Draft density memo to Zoning Board of Appeals - Fairfield Green. The
~ commission asked Mr. Lewis to send the memo for the next ZBA meeting.
5. Letter from AI Simonelli, Willowdale Golf Course regarding concerns about the
impact of various developments on his property.
3. Notice ollateDt Publie Beariag - Village LudiDg, LLC - 631 East Street - SE
211-697
The chair read the public hearing notice for the removal of existing buildings and
construction of thirteen buildings with parking areas and the installation of utilities and
drainage and stormwater systems, with work within 100 feet of wetland resource areas.
David Johnson, PMP Associates, explained the project on the current site of DeGirolamo
Contracting on East Street. There are several existing buildings and a paved driveway.
The land is high at the East Street side and slopes to the back of the site, toward the
Canoe River. An abbreviated Notice of Intent for resource area delineation was
submitted last year. The 200-foot riverfront area adjacent to the Canoe River, as well as
the BVW and the 100-foot buffer associated with the river are shown on the plan. All
work will be outside the IOO-foot riparian zone. Mr. Johnson explained building 6 and
parts of 7, 8 and 9 are within the 100-foot buffer.
Mr. Johnson said there are two oiVwater separators on site that will be removed.
,,- Stormwater will go to a groundwater recharge system. The stormwater management will
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include a sediment fore-bay and detention basin for the street and parking area drainage.
(' A manhole/pipe system will take the runoff before it goes through the sediment fore-bay;
the detention basin is sized for the tOO-year storm event. The limit of work is shown on
the plan, along with the silt fence. They have maintained a 25-foot no disturb area, but
parts of that area are already disturbed. Each catch basin has a hooded pipe, and each
catch basin has a deep swnp. The first flush will be treated in the oiVwater separator and
be discharged to the sediment fore-bay.
Ms. Matthew asked if the riverfront area is shown on the estimated habitat map. Michael
Perrault, PMP Associates, said the site is not within an estimated habitat.
Ms. Flass said the brook at flags 55-53 had not been determined to be an intermittent
stream during last year's notice of intent. She asked if that had been examined in further
detail. Mr. Johnson said his firm had not done the engineering on the NOI, and they have
not investigated that. Mr. Lewis said that would need to be field located and shown on
the plan. He said it drains a section of East Street/106 that runs toward this area.
Ms. Flass asked if anything would be done in the 200-foot buffer; Mr. Johnson said
nothing would be. Mr. Johnson said there would be no work done within the 2S-foot
buffer zone except for a small portion of pavement that will be removed. There will be
work done within the 25-50 foot buffer for drainage.
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Mr. Johnson presented an existing conditions plan. Mr. Perrault explained there is an
existing shed and construction debris inside the 25-foot buffer, which will be removed for
the construction of the detention basin.
Mr. Johnson said the plan has been submitted to the Planning Board and that public
hearing will be held on March 3, 2004.
Mr. Boyden asked for a construction sequencing plan to show how the site would be
cleaned up. Mr. Perrault said they would supply a plan.
Mr. Lewis said regarding the 25 vs. 50 foot, he hadn't previously taken into account the
fact this site is already disturbed. He suggested staking out the proposed limit of work
between flags 36 to 66 and doing a site walk to see the staking and what has happened
beyond the staking. He said there may need to be some restoration work in the
previously disturbed areas within the buffer zone.
Ms. Flass said she was concerned about building 6, the comer of which is within the 50.
foot buffer, in the area of flags 7 and 8.
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Mr. Boyden asked if there will be excess material removed; Mr. Johnson said there would
not, but there would be material brought in. He said they would bring in gravel for the
roadway base, loam for the majority of the site, and material for the earthen berms. The
detention basin will have a core of glacial material. Mr. Perrault said there would be
some stockpiling during construction, but not within 100 feet of the wetlands.
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(' Ms. Matthew asked about open space. Mr. Johnson said there are 6.7 acres of open space
shown on the plan. He said the development will be pedestrian-oriented, with a sidewalk
system connecting the units. Ms. Matthew said she didn't consider the wetland area and
riverfront area to be open space, since it isn't usable. Mr. Johnson said they have
exceeded the open space requirements; 35% is required, and they have provided 59%
open space. Mr. Perrault said they did not take credit for existing impervious surfaces
when designing the drainage system.
Mr. Boyden asked about underground recharge areas; Mr. Perrault said they were put on
the plan following a site visit with the Engineering Department. Mr. Boyden asked about
the test pits and other drainage information; Mr. Perrault said the drainage report was
submitted to the Engineering Department. He said at test hole 2, groundwater was found
at 47 inches. The system and foundations will be above that; Mr. Perrault explained there
will be footings four feet down around the perimeter of the buildings, which will be slab
on grade.
Ms. Flass asked how the roof runoff would flow toward the drainage system; Mr.
Johnson said it would be piped. Ms. Flass asked about trash; William Brown, Village
Landing LLC, said it would be privately collected
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Ms. Matthew asked about snow removal; Mr. Perrault said the snow will not be pushed
into the detention basin area; he said he wouldn't mind a "no salt" condition in the Order
of Conditions.
Publi~ Comment
Mrs. Cardinale, 665 East Street, asked what the impact would be to her property. Mr.
Perrault explained there will be no additional water shed to her property. Ms. Flass
explained the town engineer would be reviewing their stormwater plan before the next
meeting.
Gary Lillienthal, representing Dr. Sohn, asked about the detention area next to the Sohn
property. Mr. Johnson said it is downgradient of the Sohn property and is underground.
Mr. Lilienthal said Mr. Brown has been in touch with his clients and has been very
cooperative.
Steve Nolan, 625 East Street, said he has spoken with Mr. Brown and they are also
working out some issues.
Mr. Perrault suggested continuing the hearing until after the March 3 Planning Board
meeting. March 22 will be the fIrst regular meeting after the Planning Board meeting.
[Mr. Boyden left the meeting at this time. Mr. Bean took over the chair.]
Mr. Perrault suggested continuing until March 22 so there will be time for a site walk.
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Ms. Matthew noted the intermittent stream was discussed in the April 13, 2003 minutes
r regarding the notice of Intent. RIM Engineering was to have put that on a plan, which
was never done.
The public hearing will be continued to March 22, 2004 at 7 :45 p.m.
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6. Discussion of Sam Patel property on Route 106/140. The commission walked this
site in November 2003 and the flagging around the isolated wetlands was revised.
The engineer would like some feedback from the commission. The plan shows a
proposed four-story hotel in the center of the site and a one-story restaurant at the
comer of 140/Chauncy Street. There is a crossing over the stream, which would be a
limited project. Access to the site would be from Chauncy Street. There is
approximately 4,000 square feet of wetland filling proposed. To the right of the
restaurant is a 3,300 square feet of replication. There will be a couple of small
crossings on the interior of the project, with three wetland impacts totaling 380 square
feet, which Mr. Lewis said could be eliminated or nearly so. Mr. Lewis said this site
has been significantly disturbed over the years. He said the proposed replication area
is probably a good location for it. Ms. Matthew suggested a 25-foot buffer zone be
kept for the majority of the site and 50 feet at the comer of the hotel. Consensus of
the commission was that the site is too dense and the buildings are too close to the 50-
foot buffer. Mr. Bean said work around flag 162 appeared to be within the 25-foot
wetland buffer.
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The commission had a number of issues with the plan as shown, including: public
safety, snow removal, trash removal, utilities hook ups, fill, water table, test hole
results, drainage system, construction plan and structures being right on top of the 25-
foot buffer. Ms. Flass said there should be a 50-foot buffer from the intermittent
stream. Ms. Matthew said if the commission decided the site needed a 50-foot buffer,
it would be supported by the bylaw and precedent. Mr. Bean suggested the restaurant
building could be shifted closer to the entryway and remain within the building
setback. He suggested the hotel could be made smaller.
Mr. Lewis said he hasn't received an update on the Carrigan case lately.
At this time, there is nothing on the agenda for the February 23 meeting. If nothing
comes in, that meeting will be cancelled.
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Motion: To adjourn at 9:30 p.m. (Matthew-Flass) All in favor. PASSES
Date Next Meeting: March 8, 2004 at 7:30 p.m.
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Date f Approval
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