HomeMy WebLinkAboutConservation Minutes 8/11/1986MANSFIELD CONSERVATION COMMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, AUGUST 11, 1986 PAGE ONE
Members Present: Chairman Sweet, Commissioners Barr, Graham, O'Neill,
Ouellette
The meeting was called to order at 7:37 p.m.
PHILIP BEATTY. SHILOH DRIVE - SE211 -169
In response to the order of conditions issued for file SE211 -169, special
condition no. 2 (see minutes, 07- 07 -86), Mr. Beatty appeared before the
commission to request the Commission's opinion as to whether a Determination
hearing was necessary for lot 6. Mr. Beatty indicated that the plans have
changed so that no wetlands will be affected.
MOTION: To waive a Determination of Applicability hearing on lot 6,
with the understanding that if there are any further changes on
the plans (dated July 25), Mr. Beatty will have to bring them
before the Commission.
(OUELLETTE - O'NEILL; all in favor VOTED
The Commission requested that Mr. Beatty submit a copy of the revised plan
dated July 25.
GRAY'S LOT - CAR PARKING NEAR GREAT WOODS
The town has stopped Mr. Gray from parking approximately two hundred cars
on his property during performances at Great Woods. The Town Counsel, who
will be in court Wednesday morning regarding this issue, has requested a
letter from the Commission to support its case against Mr. Gray. Mr. Sweet
read aloud a letter which he had drafted, as follows:
It has come to our attention that automobiles in large quantity are
being parked for performances at the Great Woods Performing Arts Center in
close proximity to the Norton Reservoir, this part of which is in
Mansfield. A large part of the area of parking lies within 100 feet of
and borders the reservoir or its river entrance. Drainage from the area
flows directly into the lake.
For both of these reasons, the Mansfield Conservation Commission is
seriously concerned about this practice and potential violation of the
state wetlands laws. The main issue is pollution from runoff of this
unpaved parking area, and some erosion has already occurred in the bare
areas.
If parking is to be permitted, a wetlands hearing must be held and, at
a minimum, the area should be paved, provided with oil /water separators,
and controls such as berms, etc. should be installed to properly control
runoff. Should this violation continue, the Mansfield Conservation
Commission has no alternative but to issue a cease and desist order and
require that a Notice of Intent be filed.
MOTION: To send letter as written.
(OUELLETTE - O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
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STEVE BENOIT, WILLIAMS ST. - SE211 -154
Mr. Benoit has requested a release on another Williams St. lot. ('
Commissioners will review the site Wed. evening at 6:00, Aug. 13.
CLEAN LAKES GUIDELINES
Chairman Sweet and Commissioner O'Neill will meet with Gary Bogue on
Wednesday morning at 10:00 to discuss the program guidelines. One requirement
of the program is public access, which raises some potential difficulties.
The deadline for submission is October 1. Letters of support from
organizations, individuals, etc. would be included as part of the submission.
WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING - File Number not received
CWB Contractors, Inc., Plymouth St., Lot 866
The hearing opened at 8:01. A file number has not yet been issued by
DEQE, which has requested additional information regarding depth of ground
water and delineation of border vegetated wetland within 100 feet of the site.
The engineer for Hayward, Boynton and Williams represented CWB, a
manufacturer of fiber drums used as bulk packaging. The only change indicated
in the latest plans (revision date of 08- 04 -86) were: (1) soil logs - "all
wetlands vegetation confined to flowing water in drainage ditch "; (2) one
outlet added. There are two detention areas for handling runoff, one in
front, and one to the side, which can handle a 25 -year storm. There are also
outlets to avoid standing water. No rip rap was shown; some already exists
for the whole length from Route 495 to Plymouth St., and this can be added to
if necessary. There is piping for the downspouts for roof runoff, which goes
into a detention area. There are no catch basins.
Commissioner Ouellette asked whether any location for the diesel fuel tank
could be considered that would be further away from the drainage area. It was
noted by CWB representatives that perhaps there were places closer to the
building which could be considered. The tank itself will hold fuel for
filling trucks and will be double - walled steel with a fiberglass coating to
prevent rusting.
Commissioner Ouellette expressed concerns about possible above - ground
spilling during the filling process. The pad where the pump is will be on a
concrete pad, as will the filling area. The edge of all pavement is bermed to
alleviate potential surface spills. Paved swale accommodates runoff; there is
no real access for a spill to get to the street.
There were no questions from the audience. The hearing was closed at 8:25.
Commissioners noted that they have no problems with work proceeding on the
site, with the exception of the area within 100 feet of wetlands. The
siltation control is already in place.
WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING - File Number SE211 -174
Folkman Co., Inc., Maple St, on northerly side
Road and utility construction only
The hearing opened at 8 :34. Mr. Ralph Maloon, representing the Folkman
Company, explained the watershed design process. He noted that the scope of
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the subdivision has been reduced to avoid any filling of wetlands. Lot 100 is
non - buildable and will go back to the family which now owns it. Five lots
have been selected and reserved by the Planning Board, for three years, for
conservation purposes. The watershed design has three components:
1. Some lots will drain to detention areas.
2. Other lots will drain to a natural hollow (in one case a dam will be
put up).
3. One lot has no detention area, but is made up for by overcompensation
in other areas.
Most land sheds to the west of the ridge shown on the plans; some to the
east. Oil /water separators will be used. On the Easton side, because of
contours, there is no opportunity to collect, so water will be put into three
small retention areas. The original directive was to honor the natural
watershed line; however, the position of the Planning Board changed as it
became harder to adhere to that condition. The watershed demarcation line
shows that the general rule was mostly followed. The detention areas are
spread out among property lines, rather than in one large area. There is a
discharge into wetland (with a 15" pipe). into catch basin, to reduce flow,
with a large drop in elevation.
Commissioner Sweet raised the possibility of using a channel, with a wier
at the top, instead of a pipe, to spread the flow out, noting that drains
become clogged with vegetation and cease functioning. Mr. Maloon responded
that he had considered this possibility, but maintained that because of the
need for verifiable numbers regarding water flow, this alternative was not
selected.
Commissioner O'Neill raised the question of securing written permission
from the landowners for a drainage easement, or a letter stating the owner's
awareness of the drainage plan, in order to avoid future difficulties.
Mr. Folkman noted that when the Order of Conditions is written, the
siltation control should be indicated. In some areas, in addition to hay
bales, a no -work line could be marked. On steep banks, storm fence with hay
bales uphill could be used. A suggestion was made to use a continuous ribbon,
perhaps color- coded, to mark no -work areas for heavy equipment operators. Mr.
Folkman offered to return on the night the Commission writes orders for this
file, to help with the markers, due to the complexity of the plans.
The hearing closed at 9:24.
WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING - File Number not received
Nicholas C. Harris
Balcom Street
The hearing opened at 9 :30. DEQE has requested additional information and
therefore has not yet issued a file number. According to Mr. Harris'
representative, the botanist's report included with the Notice of Intent
states that there are no wetlands affected. Detention areas are shown on
plans; there is no outflow. There are depressed areas, shown on lots 17 and
18. The center line of the road is staked.
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Commissioners reviewed the botanist's report. The Commission requested a
set of plans with the latest revision date.
Abutters Bill Lewis and Pat Gagnon of Plantingfield Road expressed their
concerns about water flow from the high to low points, which at times
constitutes a stream.
The Commissioners will walk the site at Saturday morning, 9:00 a.m.,
August 16, beginning at the Balcom St. end. The hearing closed at 9 :59.
MANSFIELD ASSOCIATES REALTY TRUST - Preliminary meeting on new plans
for File SE211 -161
Mr. Malcom Post appeared before the Commission to present preliminary
plans (i.e., not stamped plans) which would address the Commission's concerns
for Lot 2 on Erick Road. The delineation of the wetlands has been changed and
is now more in agreement with the Commission's and DEQE's view of the
wetlands. A retaining wall has been placed at the rear corner of the lot, and
the septic system has been moved. Drainage will be handled by street catch
basins. The Commission needs construction details on Lot 2 and the drainage
proposal because these had originally been filed together. A full set of road
and drainage calculations will be filed.
Commissioner Ouellette indicated that the agreed -upon wetlands should be
marked on the stamped plans. She noted that there is now one entrance on the
road, no longer a common entrance for lots 2 and 3.
A railroad tie retaining wall for the leaching system was indicated at
elevation 147 to 143; this is also the "no- work" line recommended by DEQE
representative Joel Hartley. No wetlands are being filled according to the
new plans presented, though work is being done within the 100 -foot buffer zone.
Ms. Connie Pietrafetta, an abutter, raised questions regarding the
retaining wall as a solution to a water problem. No construction details were
available regarding this wall, but it was noted that it would have to be
stronger than an existing wall referred to by Ms. Pietrafetta, because it will
be holding back earth. Representatives of Mansfield Associates Realty Trust
declined to answer further questions from the audience.
Commissioner Ouellette noted that the retaining wall was necessary because
there wasn't enough room to grade the earth. She noted that elevation numbers
should be one the stamped plans. There were no further questions.
[Commissioner Graham left at 10 :41.]
ORDER OF CONDITIONS - File SE211 -173
Cabot, Cabot & Forbes
1. All work and siltation controls shall be done per plan with revision date
of Sept. 9, 1985.
2. The sign required by General Condition 9 shall be visible from and next to
the road. No work shall be done until the sign is posted.
MOTION: To issue the Order of Conditions as written.
(OUELLETTE - O'NEILL; Commissioner Barr abstained) VOTED
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k Discussion and approval of minutes was postponed.
CORRESPONDENCE
1. Letter from Mr. Folkman requesting a release for Lot 2 from the Order of
Conditions, File SE211 -124. It was noted that Lot 2 is presently under a
new, separate Order (File SE211 -162).
2. Letter from Commissioner Mahoney stating his intention to resign from the
Commission.
MOTION: To accept, with regret, Commissioner Mahoney's resignation.
(BARR - O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
3. Letter from Jennifer Graf thanking the Commission for the opportunity to
interview for the Conservation Agent position.
4. Correspondence from R14C detailing its plan for vegetation control spraying
along the railroad beds.
5. Planning Board minutes
6. From Warren Archey, Cooperative Extension Service, statistics summarizing
the watershed management project statewide.
7. Bill from the Boston Globe for Conservation Agent ad, June 22 - second
notice. It was noted that a first bill was received only for June 29, not
for June 22.
MOTION: to pay
(O'NEILL - BARR; Ouellette abstaining) VOTED
8. Letter from Karl Clemmey requesting an extension, file SE211 -33.
Commissioners reviewed original plans.
MOTION: to request that Mr. Clemmey come before the Commission to
explain his request, and then indicate to him that he must file
any extension with the Registry.
(O'NEILL - BARR; all in favor) VOTED
MOTION: To meet on Monday evening, August 18, at 7 :30.
(OUELLETTE - BARR; all in favor) VOTED
MOTION: To adjourn
(BARR - O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
The meeting was adjourned at 11:33 p.m.
(70 Approved bYGL
Date to Town Clerk:
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