HomeMy WebLinkAboutConservation Minutes 10/6/1986MANSFIELD CONSERVATION GOPQQffSSION MINUTES
MONDAY, OCTOBER 6, 1986 S;', DEC 12 ITa6 PAGE ONE
Members Present: Chairman Sweet, C T nydn�es` �a.4 a O'Neill [from
8:12 on], Ouellet 1 ®vVF� C ER!'y
The meeting was called to order at 7:36.
CORRESPONDENCE
1. Letter from Martin Cahill stating that the Titus property is occupied and
asking whether a building permit had been issued. A response will be sent
to Mr. Cahill stating that the Building Inspector should be addressed with
regard to a question of occupancy permit.
MINUTES
MOTION: To approve the minutes of September 22, with the addition of a file
number to the first item under "New Business" in order to clarify
which property is under discussion.
(Graham - Ouellette; all in favor) VOTED
WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING:
Applicant: James Langille
Location of Project: Robinson Court
Purpose: Construction within 100 ft. of bordering vegetated wetland and
land under water body [Robinson Pond].
Present: The applicant and Mr. Ralph Maloon, of Rim Engineering; no
abutters
The project is a seven -lot subdivision off Pine Street. Mr. Ralph Maloon
represented the applicant; he stated that the applicants are not intending to
do any work in the wetlands. The lot numbers begin with number six. The
wetlands in question lie right beside Robinson Pond, with a fringe of wetlands
along the easterly side of the pond. The drainage outlet is the only thing
which will be near the pond. Mr. Maloon stated that it was possible that lots
8 and 9 might have to come back before the board for a hearing, but their hope
is to stay 100 feet away even on those lots. Four basins in about 600 feet of
roadway will go into the drainage trench; after moving away from the road, 18"
PVC perforated pipe will be used, placed about 3'6" deep x 8' wide. The plans
have been calculated to take a 100 -year storm. A 3'x3' concrete box will
allow access for cleaning. There will be a grass swale, with loaming and
seeding at the outlet, approximately 70 feet from the pond's edge; no water
will go into the pond. The plans represent a form of compensation rather than
retention /detention.
A garage from lot 9 will be moved to lot 11, but there will be no need to
have heavy equipment near the wetlands. There were no additional questions.
The Commissioners will walk this site on Mon., Oct. 13, at 6:00. The hearing
was closed at 8:30 p.m.
Commissioners raised the issue of public access for the purposes of the
Clean Lakes program; however, the applicant felt that there would be no
appropriate way to achieve this in the project under discussion.
MR. PHILIP BEATTY, SHILOH ESTATES, File SE211 -169
Mr. Beatty brought in plans for lot 8 to satisfy the Order of Conditions
for Shiloh Estates. Commissioner Graham commented that the trenches shown are
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so far away from the wetlands that it wasn't really necessary to look at them
before they are covered.
MOTION: No Determination of Applicability or Notice of Intent need be
filed on Shiloh Estates Lot 8.
(OUELLETTE - BARR; all in favor) VOTED
ABC TRUST. CENTRAL ST
Pit. Peter O'Brien, representing ABC Trust, discussed an Enforcement Order
issued in regard to work being done on Central St. Prior to the Order, ABC
Trust had consulted him with regard to the work and had been advised by him to
continue, as it was his judgment that there were no wetlands subject to the
Act. He notified the Commission of his advice by letter dated August 29.
Prior to the letter of August 29, four Commissioners visited the site at
various times, had had questions about the site and had therefore requested a
filing. The foundation went up, and then a backhoe was present on the site.
The result of their request was the letter from Mr. O'Brien; not wishing to
depend solely on Mr. O'Brien's judgment of the wetlands in question, they
issued an Enforcement Order.
Following the Enforcement Order, Dr. Jerome Carr was retained by ABC Trust
to give an opionion on the wetlands in question. Because work done in the
interim had disturbed the vegetation, Mr. Carr's judgment was made on the
basis of the areas immediately upstream and downstream of the work site.
He found a few alders immediately upstream, in addition to a red maple patch,
which didn't qualify as a resource area. His judgment was that the wetlands
growth present on the site before work had commenced probably had not reached
the 50 percent criterion necessary to qualify as wetlands subject to
protection.
Commissioners decided to walk the site on Wednesday, October 8, at 6:00
p.m. and issue a written response regarding their findings.
PINE TERRACE - Mr. Potter
Mr. Potter's representatives discussed this 47 -48 acre project, to be
located off Branch Street. The Planning Board will not waive its 650' dead
end requirement. The applicants have worked out an arrangment with Mr.
Boutas /Home Developers regarding a drainage /retention area; they feel the only
way to meet the Planning Board's requirements is to extend the road through
Mr. Boutas' property, so that it will not be a dead end. There would be a
detention area to one side of the proposed road; about 9000- 10,000 square feet
of wetlands would have to be filled and would be compensated for on the order
of three to one. They feel they need a roadway exception, since there would
be no other way to get to buildable land; they have no alternatives to putting
about 1000' of road with no buildable lots on either side. An Army Corps
permit will also be required. Commissioners will walk the site on Saturday,
October 18, at 9:00 a.m. and review the roadway exception regulations before
commenting further.
LINDA AND JONATHAN CHILSON, WEST STREET
Mr. and Mrs. Chilson appeared before the Board to discuss work on an
addition to their home. Last June,.the Building Inspector was consulted, and
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proper town procedures were followed regarding the addition to their home.
However, recently the Building Inspector had notified the Chilson's that
because their property abutted Bungay Lake, a building permit could not be
issued before the Conservation Commission had ruled on the project. Mr. and
Mrs. Chilson indicated that they would have done so earlier, and prevented a
costly delay, had they been notified early; they now hope to begin work again,
since at the moment there is a large hole, which constitutes a hazard, as well
as a pile of dirt /gravel which may erode into the lake. Haybales were put in
place after Commissioner O'Neill visited the site.
Commissioner O'Neill noted that had a Determination meeting been held, he
felt that the Determination would have been negative, since the work would not
have a permanent impact on wetlands. Commissioner Graham commented that this
would seem to qualify as case in which the Commission, in order to prevent
erosion of the existing gravel pile into the lake, should use its "emergency"
powers to recommend immediate action rather than an additional hearing.
140TION: To send a letter stating that the work being done will not
affect the wetlands, that proper precautions in the form of
haybales are in place, and that to prevent any detrimental
erosion of gravel into the lake, the Commission recommends
issuing a permit as soon as possible.
(O'NEILL - OUELLETTE; all in favor)
VOTED
PAUL FOLYCMAN - HIGHLAND AVENUE RELEASES - File SE211 -139
The Commissioners had walked this site in preparation for releasing lots
j as requested by Mr. Folkman. They had no problem with lot 8, but the dropoff
on lot 9 was too steep, and they found debris on lot 9. Mr. Folkman indicated
that he would attend to the matter of lot 9.
MOTION: To release Highland Avenue lot 8.
(OUELLETTE - O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
WIND CHIME ACRES - SE211 -57
Mr. Folkman explained that he had purchased properties from Mr. Bonvie;
while retaining walls were shown on the plans, Mr. Folkman is having a hearing
for a waiver. Lot 3A has an Order of Conditions on it; Mr. Folkman will take
the Board of Health plans for the site and staple them together in order for
the Commission to understand what they need to look at with regard to the
site.
FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE
Chairman Sweet proposed the following schedule, in response to Rande
Wilson's request for a capital improvement budget for the Commission: FY '87,
20,000; FY 188, 75,000; FY 189, 100,000; FY 190, 100,000; FY 191, 100,000.
Commissioner Ouellette raised the issue of augmenting this schedule by
increased fees. Chairman Sweet will ask the Town Counsel if part of fees
raised can be set aside for land acquisition.
MOTION: To submit to the Town Manager a capital improvement schedule as
suggested by the Chairman.
(OUELLETTE - O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
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CLEAN LAKES
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The application has been submitted; letters of support from individuals
are still required.
PHOTOGRAPHS, BRISTOL ARMS AREA
Chairman Sweet has ordered copies of the 1980 and 1984 aerial
photographs. Negatives are also available.
CORRESPONDENCE (cont.)
2. Letter from Hillman and August, attorneys representing Michael Glassman of
200 Old Elm Street. Mr. Glassman wishes the Commissioners to be aware of
Ms. Sandra Franey's proposal to do work on her property which might have
impact on wetlands. Commissioner O'Neill has seen the property and agrees
that a filing would be appropriate.
MOTION: To send Ms. Franey a letter, with copies to Air. Glassman and
his attorney, requesting a filing before any alterations are
made to the property in question.
(OUELLETTE - GRAHAM; all in favor) VOTED
3. Letter requesting Certificate of Compliance for File SE211 -122 (Essex and
Ware St., Brugliera). Commissioners will walk the site on Saturday,
October 18, at 10:00 a.m.
4. Correspondence from the Foxboro Conservation Commission acknowledging
their receipt of the Commission's letter regarding an Order of Conditions
(File No. SE211 -141) which requires that a plan be submitted and approved
by the Commission prior to commencement of work on the regional
interceptor on County Street. Plans will be sent to the Commission.
5. Plans from CWB showing the oil tank moved away from the wetlands, as
requested by the Commission in Order of Conditions, File SE211 -175.
MOTION: To approve the revised plan.
(0'NEILL - OUELLETTE; all in favor) VOTED
NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Graham requested that a siltation control reminder be sent to
Mr. Thibeault regarding work being done on Franklin St. under File No.
SE211 -119.
MOTION TO ADJOURN: (BARR - OUELLETTE; all in favor) VOTED
The meeting adjourned at 11 :299- a.m
Approved by: `(\
Date to Town Clerk:
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