HomeMy WebLinkAboutConservation Minutes 7/27/1987MANSFIELD CONSERVATION COMLQffSSION Ii MINUTES
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Members Present: Chairman Sweet, Comms: Carek— U or 9:06b, O`:Neill,
j Ouellette, Smith
The meeting was called to order, at 8:04 p.m.
DETERMINATION OF APPLICABILITY: -
Carl Nelson - -68 Spring Street -- Installation of fence along property lines
Mr. Nelson was not present. The Commission did not have a copy; of the
plan showing property lines where work was to take place. Abutters presented
a letter addressed to the Commission, Board of Health,, Town Manager, Building
Inspector, and DEQE, expressing their concerns regarding the proposed fence.
Mr. DeViney also presented pictures attesting to filling of a canal located on
Mr. Nelson's property, and asked for some response to neighbors' concerns that
filling had taken place within 50 feet of the pond, and that asphalt, tree
branches and stumps had been included in fill used on the property. Abutters
also maintained that Mr. Nelson continued to work on the fence within the
buffer zone, despite the Commission's directions that work not be done in this
area. The Commision will request Mr. Nelson's presence at the August 17
meeting, at which Atime it can address the issue of the fill used and ;,possibly
request a series of test borings.
MOTION: To continue the hearing to August 17 at _7:35, and to send a
letter to Mr. Nelson stating that no further work may be done
within 100 feet of the pond or river, as instructed at the July 6
meeting.
(O'NEILL- OUELLETTE; all in favor) VOTED
WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING - SE211 -206
Bertram and Barbara Cook, 420 Gilbert St., proposed aquaculture pond
Mr. Cook submitted a plan drawn by the Department of Agriculture, with lot
lines superimposed. The plan proposes 41,006 cubic yards of excavation to
create a 2 -acre pond on a 10.5 -acre site. Some work will occur within the
100 -year flood plain. As the area is excavated, material will be removed
immediately, except for humus and loam to be stockpiled in one corner.
Pumping may be necessary. No work will be done beyond the tree line shown on
the plan. Siltation controls can be ,placed between the tree .line and the
excavation. The top of the pond elevation will be 97 ft.; the water, table
will determine the depth.
In response to a question by Mr. Joseph Corliss, 115 Central St., Mr. Cook
stated that he will raise and sell shiners. Mr. Corliss requested
clarification regarding the town meeting's vote against new ponds in relation
to this proposal. It was explained that the vote applied to new ponds
designed to handle drainage for _subdivisions. The •hearing, was closed at
8:.29. The site will be walked on August 10 at 6:00 p.m.
LETTER OF EXCLUSION - The Order, of Conditions issued to Sandra Franey for file
SE211 -185 was filed under the _incorrect book and page, based on information
supplied by Mrs. Franey. She requested that the Commission issue a letter
clarifying which parcel the Order for SE211- 185.seferenced.
MOTION: To issue such a letter.
(OUELLETTE- O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
The correct information will be requested from Mrs. Franey and sent to the
Registry of Deeds, so that the Order will reference the correct parcel of land.
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EXTENSION PERMIT - File SE211 -118, GREAT WOODS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER
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JDC, Inc. has requested an 'extension to its Order of Conditions in order
to complete landscaping, which it anticipates will be done by the fall of 1987.
MOTION: To grant the extension per request.
(OUELLETTE- O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
CORRESPONDENCE
1. Copy of letter from Paul Folkman to James Dunn requesting that changes be
made to subdivision` plans for 04sfbY00k. ZZ40 fC-S in accordance with
discussions held with Dick Lewis.
2. Letter from Leo Yelle regarding abatement of tax assessment for Norton
Reservoir property owned by the Town of Mansfield. It was explained that
the State sets the assessment when one municipality owns land in another
municipality.' Dick 'Lewis will see that appropriate forms are filled out.
MOTION: To open the hearing for Emerson (School St.), File SE211 -203) and
continue until after the hearing scheduled for 9:30, since Mr.`
Emerson was not yet present.
(OUELLETTE- O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING CONTINUATION: 'SE211 -205
Walmark Corporation -- Hallett Crossing II
Mr. James Dunn summarized information presented at the July 6 meeting,
stating that the "present application 'would require filling of 4500 sq. �.
feet. ", The crossing of' the ' wetlands is calculated on the basis of a retaining
wall on each side which would limit the crossing between the walls to 35
feet. A- detention basin behind the roadway is an integral part of runoff
management. The area would act as a detention basin to attenuate storm flows;
the design also allows for sewer on a gravity basis. 'Mr. Dunn raised the
possibility of moving the road through a narrow neck (roughly a 50 -ft.'
change), stating that it doesn't make the sewer non- viable, but the length' of
road would be increased by 30 -40 feet, resulting in destruction of about 1700
square feet of non- wetland vegetation. 'There would be ''a savings of about 500
ft. of wetland crossing.` [Comm. Carey entered at this point.]
If the road in question were to loop with Emerson, a change which Mr. Dunn
termed "quite severe," an additional 400 linear feet of roadway would be
required,' as would a pump station for the sewer and possibly an additional
detention basin somewhere in the buffer 'zone.
Commissioner' Ouellette noted that the current design would cause more
water to flow on to the Jefferson Rd. side of the filled area, although all
compensation is being done on the other side of Nathan Rd., with no additional
storage 'being created to handle additional runoff from the (roads. Mr.;
Broderick stated that an overflow pipe could answer this concern.
Commissioner Ouellette had questions regarding the elevations of the roadway
with regard to the elevations in peak 'flow calculations, noting that the
finished grade on the roadway is shown as 125.27, while the elevation for peak
flow is listed as 126.1.' Mr. Dunn explained that the 126.1 elevation applied
to Area A of the plan, where the elevation at the center of the road is shown
at 127.5; the 125.27 finished grade occurs within Area B2.
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Commissioner Ouellette asked about the footing on the retention wall. The
(' elevation at the base was shown at 117 ft. Two test holes in the area
revealed silty sand with some stones at 2.5 feet below the surface in one
spot, and loose to fine sand at 24 inches in the other. Footings would go
down about four feet.
In conclusion, Mr. Dunn stated that he recommended no changes to the plan
presented.
Dick Lewis asked if he had looked at moving Emerson Rd. with a view toward
calculating how far a gravity sewer would work. Commissioner Ouellette asked
if he had considered separating the sewer from the roadway. Commissioner
Carey asked if they would lose house lots if the went with the longer roadway
as explained above, moving the road 50 ft, over. Mr, Dunn said that if
anything, it might add lots. Dick Lewis asked again whether there was no way
to gravity feed from the intersection between Jefferson and Nathan. Mr. Dunn
replied, ';I can't answer that;" this possibility was not investigated. Dick
stated that the Commission had made it clear that it wants to minimize wetland
impact, and that it was his belief that the Commission had not received the
alternatives it sought. The applicants wish to proceed on the basis of the
plans presented. Mr. Broderick asked if the Commission would like help with
the Order of Conditions. Chairman Sweet responded that the meeting will be
open, but that they were not seeking such input. The hearing was closed at
9:50, with Orders to be written on August 17.
WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING:
Keith Development Corp. -- Connors Avenue (proposed road near Oakland
( St. /Francis Ave.) -- Roadway construction over bordering vegetated wetlands
Mr. Phil Corbett of Keith Development and Mr. Charles Gale of Gale
Engineering explained that Connors Avenue is currently a paper street; the
project proposes to build the street to reach back land and is therefore filed
as a limited project with no compensation area proposed for the 1700 square
feet to be filled. Commissioner Ouellette asked if the wetlands delineation
line shown represented the original wetlands delineation submitted for the
Village at Mansfield Depot (File SE211 -182), or the revised one which the
Commission had agreed to at that time. Mr. Corbett stated that the original
line submitted had been used; "that is the line agreed to by the wetlands
botanist."
Commissioner Ouellette had reservations regarding the accuracy of the
wetlands delineation as well as the limited project status of this filing. In
response, Mr. Gale stated that "There is no area proposed for replication
because there is none that works well," later adding that they "could
compensate if asked to." The site lies within the Water Protection District.
MOTION: To continue the hearing until the DEQE number is assigned.
(O'NEILL- CAREY; all in favor) VOTED
The site will be walked at 7:15 on August 10.
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WETLAND PROTECTION ACT HEARING CONTINUATION- -SE211 -203:
Michael W. C. Emerson -- School Street -- Private roadway leading to six house y
lots with septic systems
Mr. Emerson noted that a new plan had been submitted which included all
the information requested by the Commission at its previous meeting. He
stated that the houses 'themselves would be filed separately; he would like to
start building this fall if possible.
MOTION: To close the hearing at 10:42.
(CAREY- OUELLETTE; all in favor) VOTED
CAMELOT ESTATES BONDING - File SE211 -138
MOTION: That Chairman Sweet be 'authorized to sign the bank
account /agreement on behalf of the Commission.
(OUELLETTE- O'NEILL; all in favor) VOTED
HIGH STREET BRIDGE - Commissioner Ouellette asked that 'Dick Lewis look into a
change in plans referenced by the Order of Conditions, noting that a retaining
wall has been built instead of sloped banking. '
The meeting adjourned at 11 :J18.
Approved by: /. /iC c ..17 •� c
Date to Town Clerk: (j , 'ry 1! 77
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