HomeMy WebLinkAboutConservation Minutes 3/29/1993TOWN OF MANSFIELD, MASSACHUSETTS
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MANSFIELD CONSERVATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
MONDAY, MARCH 29, 1993
7:00 CALL TO ORDER
7:15 WETLANDS PROTECTION ACTT HEARING CONTINUATION - SE211 -415
Walmarf. Corp.- -Lots 235 -236, (68, 67)- -Two dwellings,
driveways, grading within Hallett Crossing II
7:301 DISCUSSION OF ISSUES PERTAINING TO LAND USEIACQUISITION,
RULES AND REGULATIONS IN CONSERVATION LANDS
MANSFIELD CONSERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, MARCH 29, 1993 -- PAGE 1
Members Present: Chairman Cauldwell, Commissioners Cormier, Forbes,
Powers, Sadowski
WETLANDS PROTECTION ACT HEARING - SE211 -418
Walmark Carp. - -Lots 235 -236, (68, 67 )- -Two dwellings, driveways,
grading within Hallett Crossing II
Ellen Peoples, Dunn/McKenzie, represented the applicant. Mr. Ed
Marcheselli was also present. Dick has spoken to Gary Makuch about DEP's
review of the site and has learned that no written documentation of the
visit will be forthcoming. However, the applicant is proposing to treat
the area in question as the commission views it, and will restore the
area to wetlands vegetation. An infiltration trench will be moved away
from wetlands - the applicant agreed to supply a revised plan before the
orders are issued.
MOTION: To close the hearing.
(Sadowski - Cormier; all in favor) VOTED
EComm. Forbes arrived.]
MAPLE PARK AREA:
-- National Lumber has debris piled up against fence bordering
conservation property; Dick was asked to send a letter to them
requesting that it be removed.
- -The commission requested that a letter be sent to the Highway
Dept. asking that the "shack" constructed in the woods be removed.
DISCUSSION OF GREAT WOODS LAND USE7ACOUISITION
Mr. Lenny Flynn and Lou Andrews were present to provide background
and review progress /discussion that has taken place to date regarding
acquisition of conservation land in the Great Woods. A recent meeting
with officials resulted in the state's agreeing to support a joint
application (with Norton) for Self -Help funds; the project will be
eligible for up to 877 funding. The towns will be responsible for the
additional 13 percent. The state considers the project regionally
significant. The representative from the Trustees of Reservations are
more comfortable seeing the acquisition without the LegoLand7road
complications. Natural Resources Trust has submitted four TM articles
for acquisition by eminent domain of four parcels (which according to
their legal advice will offer the best way to get clear title to the
parcels). In particular, acquisition of parcel 14 -2 will give the town
control over access to the area. Some of the parcels are owner unknown,
with no taxes ever having been paid. The "Owner unknown" classification
must be established by a "due diligent search." Mansfield NRT has
volunteered to pay for and initiate that search. No one has been living
in or working in the Great Woods since shortly after the Civil War; most
of the land is "low value" and has never been surveyed. over 507 of the
Great Woods is classified as wetlands. The deeds overlap, and make it
difficult to establish title. The search must be publicized.
An additional consideration is the eighty -eight acres declared
excess by the Mass. Highway Dept., which years ago promised to return
the parcel to the town. Mr. Flynn has talked to Sen. Keating's office
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and is trying to set up a meeting with officials who can influence this
process. This land ties critical portions together. There is no
intention to acquire industrial /commercial land along 149.
Dick 'reviewed the Self -Help grant p'rog'ram, a reimbursement program
which is run by the Department of Conservation Services. There hasn't
been a grant cycle for 5 or E years. Mansfield on its own would be
eligible for 72% reimbursement, but in a joint application with Norton
could receive.as much as 87%. A vote must be taken either at a fall
town meeting or at next spring's annual meeting. The amount of this
grant round will not be known until Jan. '94 at the earliest. However,
much work must be done before that time:+ the value of properties must
be ascertained, titles verified, etc. [Comm. Smith arrived.] Mr. Flynn
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reported that the Trust for Public Lands has committed to negotiating
with owners to take options on land in anticipation of town meeting
votes and Self -Help funds. Almost all parcels NRT has bought already
were gained with Self -Help funds, so that the state has already
committed to the project in smaller sections.
Comm. Powers asked what restrictions exist regarding uses under a
Self -Help grant or any under other sources being considered. She asked,
for example, whether camping on a very limited basis would be
permissible. The land must be used for conservation and passive
recreation purposes; the state would want a land management plan
including signage, trail markings, parking spaces, etc. Gov. Weld has
indicated that he
is not inclined to commit the state or communities to long -term budget
layouts for high maintenance usage. Mr. Flynn would like to see
restriction placed on motorized vehicles. He will check into
restrictions on structures for educational purposes.
Comm. Sadowski commented that accumulating such a large land area
would allow a wildlife corridor as well, and sees great educational
potential -.
Resident Virginia Dellamy commented that before Route 495 went
through, schoolchildren were guided through woods.
Comm. Powers urged the commission to walk the areas in question for
benefit of new commissioners.
Resident Colin Cauldwell asked about whether the proposed foot
bridge over highway is a dead issue. Mr. Flynn answered that the
original 495 EIS included a pedestrian bridge, and all possible pressure
should be brought to bear on the Mass. Highway Dept.; including letters
to Mr. Kerasiotis, with copies to Sen. Keating and Rep. Hyland as
representatives of the people who sacrificed that land for the highway.
Resident Mr. Karl Clemmey raised the issue that there are currently
junk cars at Taylor's Hill and stated that he doesn't want to see
Conservation, Commission take on any more land until they have a plan to
maintain it. He indicated he doesn't approve of the Self -Help program
because it has restrictions. He urged that ownership be shared with the
recreation dept., and he also doesn't see how hunting can be permitted
in such close proximity to people.
Resident Kate Viens asked how committed the Commission /NRT
is to these four parcels and whether land beyond that belt area has been
considered, perhaps parcels that are industrial /commercial and easily
accessible. Lou Andrews responded that these four parcels are being
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sought because they are available; in fact they are acquiring around the
edges first. He also raised the expense factor of industrial land as a
consideration. Selectman Ralph Penney asked whether Baybanks has a role
in any of the negotiations. Mr. Flynn answered that the Trust Dept. and
Badge Blackett are negotiating. Those four parcels are on the top of
his list (about 95 acres in Mansfield').
Mr.. Penney asked how long reimbursement would take through the
Self -Help program. Dick answered that it goes through without much
delay. Mr. Penney also asked who will pull the entire joint effort
together. Mr. Flynn answered that the land acquisition committee will
function as a subcommittee under direct control of Conservation
Commission, as NRT has always done in the past. All meetings have
included representatives of the Conservation Commission as well as of
NRT, though NRT has spearheaded the effort. Joint meetings could be
held with the Norton Conservation Commission if needed.
Mr. Flynn stated that that the Natural Resources Trust group needs
all the help it can get; membership is open to everyone for $5.00.
Selectmen will be kept apprised of progress through correspondence. Mr.
Flynn also volunteered to come to a selectmen's meeting.
Selectmen Pasquale and Penney urged the commission to emphasize
that public participation is welcomed, and reiterated the importance of
winning public support. Dick Lewis also mentioned that letters of
support for the project would be critical to the Self -Help application
process.
A vote should probably be taken by Mansfield and Norton
boards /committees to enter into a joint application process.
Resident Kate Viens asked whether anyone at the town or state level
has investigated other sources of funding. Mr. Flynn responded that NRT
has tried to involve all the large national and state conservation
Organizations to contribute money. Trust for Public Land is putting up
money.
Resident Christine Butler asked for a list of organizations who
have been contacted; Mr. Flynn has such a list.
A site walk will be scheduled during a drier time of year.
Resident Barbara Bayon commented that such walks have tremendous
potential for elevating public awareness. She emphasized that from a
public relations point of view it seems critical to ascertain and
explain any restrictions resulting from Self -Help funding. Also from a
public relations point of view, she felt it important to distinguish
between this effort and the initial acquisition proposal which was tied
to Lego development. There remains in people's minds the question of
the 500 acres that the Drew Company is seeking a tenant for. Mr. Flynn
commented that since the LEGG decision was made, the John Drew Co.
hasn't been involved in the meetings. He reminded everyone that
individual landowners can sell to anyone; NRT is in competition with
other- potential buyers.
Selectmen Pasquale invited NRT and Conservation Commission members
to a 4 -21 -93 meeting with selectmen to talk about the warrant articles
and self -help restrictions.
The meeting adjourned at 9:34.
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