HomeMy WebLinkAboutConservation Minutes 8/23/1993MANSFIELD CONSERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, AUGUST 23, 1993 -- PAGE 1
Members{Pres nt°,., ChaI,rman Cauldwell, Commissioners Powers, Sadowski,
rt "Smi th, Weidner
MINUTES: MOTI!Y7 -' iT.4 adopt minutes of August 9, 1993 as discussed.
j, \��?'WoWers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
Changes: Page 3 - change "alteration" to "filling ". Bottom of page,
last paragraph, last sentence - add "donation would include the fee
interest in the contemplated road."
CERTIFICATES OF COMPLIANCE:
Scott Fuller, Worldwide Devt. Lot 5 Piasecki Dr. (SE211 -339 -
Subdivision; SE211 -351 - lot). Landscaping done, loamed, seeded recently.
MOTION: To partially release lot 5 from SE211 -339 and SE21 -351.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
Releases from SE211- -55 and -65 sought for Lot 7, Branch St. A
certificate was issued for SE211 -65 (Branch St., relocation of Back Bay
Brook) in the early 1980s. No certificate was ever issued for SE211--55.
MOTION: To issue Certificates for SE211 -65 and -55.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
Some portions of the original order were never carried out; however, the
property has changed hands; portions of the property are under Orders for
the Baybrook subdivision.
CORRESPONDENCE:
Letter from Paul Folk.man re Keli Green and the proposed compensation/
replication area, which was supposed to be completed about year and a half
ago (but wasn't due to Bonwood's financial difficulties). Orders are valid
until March '94. Comm. Powers suggested sending a letter to fir. Folkman
indicating the Commission's appreciation of the effort to complete the
compensation area but noting that the orders will be expiring and
suggesting that extension will he difficult unless substantial work has
occurred. The commission will request a progress report by the end of
September indicating current status of work and eventual completion date.
MOTION: To send letter as discussed.
(Powers - Weidner; all in favor) VOTED
WETLANDS PROTECTION ACT HEARING CONTINUATION . :File- Avmbar�)&S $e °„ reeerVe4e
Karl Clemmey-- Perkins Ave. Lots 1- 3-- Construct roadway and three
dwellings, associated grading & utilities, within 100 ft. of wetlands
Richard Merrikan, Mr. Buckley (Bay Colony), Mr. Clemmey present.
Approximately 12 abutters present. The proposed project includes
a portion of Perkins Ave. and three lots. Land slopes away from Perkins
Ave., in a westerly direction, towards a pond. September 'SS and April 189
were the dates given for two different elevations of the pond. Wetlands
vegetation lines shown on plan as well. Leaching galley system proposed.
Three houses to be constructed, minimum setback (30 ft.) to avoid
disturbance of flood plain or wetlands. Calculation methods used to
determine the 100 -year storm since no FEMA or town data were available.
The elevation estimated by the engineer was 164. Based on that estimate,
the lots would be graded and no disturbance resulted on lots I and 3. For
the Lot 2 house, again based on the levels estimated by calculation
method=_., the flood plain gets to about 60 ft. from street; a compensatory
storage area is proposed to handle the volume from this lot. Grading of
each lot is planned to be independent of the others.
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MONDAY, AUGUST 23, 1993 -- PAGE 2
Siltation fences proposed. Siltation control line is limit of work.
Some alteration had already taken place; Mr. Drown had done a number /
of soil borings (about 10 -15 inches) which didn't show any hydric
soils; Comm. Powers felt line (with one exception) was accurate, and
that inaccuracy is marked wetland but may be upland. Comm. Powers
Asked whether the compensation area had been calculated to the 164
elevation on a volume basis, or calculated to the line on the plan.
[Answer: volume basis.] At its deepest, the compensation area is two
feet. Concern was expressed by the commission that when homes are
conveyed, there is a tendency for owners to fill such areas. A
notation should be made in order to maintain in perpetuity. The town
engineering dept. has reviewed calculations for the subdivision
regarding drainage and leaching galleys. The accuracy of calculations
regarding the 100 -year flood is dependent upon the professional who
has stamped the plans and talcs.
The pond has no outlet. Comm. Sadowski expressed concerns about rate
of runoff into pond post -devt. and asked what type of vegetation existed
under original conditions. The engineers responded that they were
contacted after re- grading was done, so they have no info. Karl Drown say_;
flagging was essentially the way it is now. Slope change will contribute
to more rapid runoff; concern about flash rainfalls etc. Mr. Merrikan
Suggested that the pond bottom is a "gravel area, with pretty good soils;
pond probably reflects groundwater ", and he felt that the speed of the
runoff is not important. He doesn't think a Swale or pathway would
contribute anything positive. The watershed for the pond is about 3.6
acres; these three lots represent about 1 acre.
Dick. Lewis requested more analysis to show that wetland regs. have
been satisfied in figuring flood storage capacity for the filling on lot 2.
Ed McCalski, 28 Noonan St., submitted dated photos to the commission.
Rod Stearns, 74 Union St. and Sel Stearns, 37 Chilson Ave., presented an
old Mansfield News photo (from 1955) to help in establishing flood levels.
Rod Stearns noted that there is a' natural spring at the north end of the
pond which can be seen in dry seasons. He observed that water routinely
comes up to where the foundations are proposed, every spring. He feels the
water seems to rise higher and stay longer since the woods have been
reduced and the area has been changed. He feels the area is much too
flooded to build on.
James Garland, 277 Central St., has lived in neighborhood since 1935.
His property goes down from the road; water collects in his yard and feeds
the pond. He expressed the opinion that building houses in this area would
be risky, and that "a lot of wetland has been destroyed in that area over
the years." He asked what effect such a substantial cutting of trees would
have on the amount of water in the area.
Marybeth Maclntyre, 253 Central St., lives behind lot 3 and expressed
concerns that if the pond swells, water will run off onto her property.
Mr. Merrikan reiterated that the only way they could calculate the
flood plain was by formula, because they had no historical data or
observations. He stated that it is up to the commission to decide whether
historical and on -site observations should change those calculations. Mr.
Merrikan suggested that the commission will have to sort out the pictures
and how they correspond to the flood plain determined by the calculations.
One of the pictures submitted had a test hole with an elevation; some
Pictures and observations submitted by abutters were made available to the
commission and to the applicant's representatives.
Ed McCann, 7 Noonan St., submitted pictures from December 192.
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Mr. McCalski asked to identify some of the locations of the pictures.
Rod Stearns: Storage has been squeezed as a result of development
and that may be why water is routinely coming up so high. Looking at the
bank from Mrs. Stearns' property might give the commission the elevation
lines needed for more accurate calculations. She gave permission to the
commission and to the applicant and his representatives to go onto her
property for this purpose. Day Colony will go out on the site and try to
correlate pictures with site talcs.
MOTION: To continue the hearing to site walk on 9 -11 at 9:00 a.m. and
3:00 p.m. on 9 -13.
(Sadowski - Powers; all in favor) VOTED
WETLANDS PROTECTION ACT HEARING CONTINUATION - SE211 -433
Balcom Realty Corp. - -Fruit St. (Map 34, Parcel 51) -- Grading,
driveway, utilities within 100 ft. of wetlands
Ralph Maloon presented a revised wetland line on plan. Gave more room
for grading in back. Soil types notation added. Note added re finger -like
projection. Rev. date 8- 23 -93. Alan Drown also present.
MOTION: To close the hearing.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
MOTION: To issue orders as written.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
WETLANDS PROTECTION ACT HEARING CONTINUATION - SE211 -434
Dalcom Realty Corp. - -S. Main St. Plat 14, Parcels 20-22, part of 13 --
Within buffer zone, construct detention area /swale & remove
house /garage
Ralph Maloon and Alan Drown present. Revised plan presented. Removed
Swale, put 12" pipe, extended hay bales, added contour lines etc. as
requested at the last meeting and at site walk. Note added to plan: trees
to be saved whenever possible, in detention area.
Dick suggested a grate on the 12" pipe, because of its location. He
asked whether this epresents a new outfall to the Rumford River which
would require a NPD stormwater discharge permit; a special condition
should be added 'regarding this possibility. [new conditiMVOTED
Include a condition about appropriate oil tank and/o
soil removal from the house being taken down: add to con
MOTION: To close the hearing.
(Powers - Weidner; all in favor) MOTION: To issue the orders as discussed. ONII VC,11,g (Powers - Sadowsk.i; all in favor) om&erecc t
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BEQUEST FOR DETERMINATION OF APPLICABILITY - close o,4,J j
Marlene Durkin - -41 Oakleaf Drive -- Construct shed within 100 ft. of
wetland resource area /brook.
An old tin shed has been removed; the applicant proposes to replace
it. Tree cutting was done and loge stacked; the branches should be spread
around, according to Chairman Cauldwell. Because of the quantity of
branches etc., Comm. Powers suggested removing them altogether. The
applicant would like to fill in a "finger" of wet area but was advised not
to include that work in this filing. Such filling would be problematic
j under a Determination. An enforcement letter describing cleanup work
should accompany determination. Other commissioners can see tree clearing
area. Walk site at 4:30 p.m. 8 -24.
MOTION: To close Hearing on shred construction.
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(Sadowski - Powers; all in favor) VOTED
MOTION: To issue a negative #3 determination, allowing only shed
construction and noting that no filling is proposed. \.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
MOTION: To send letter -requesting that the applicant work. with Dick
to appropriately remove branches etc. with possible
commission re- inspection.
(Powers - Weidner; all in favor) VOTED
SITE WALKS: Conrod Court 3 -28 at 7:30 a.m.; Deerpath following at 8:00
a.m.; South St. on 9 -11 at 7:30 a.m.
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE:
SE211 -130 ERICK ROADIDONNEY LANE. Any work on lots 1 and 2 will
require additional filing. Brook has been cleaned nut and graded; Dick. is
satisfied with,grading and cleaning.
MOTION: To'issue a partial release for SE211 -130 for Erick Rd.' and
the stream cleaning only.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
MILL POND: Apology received from Town Manager.
FULTON FOND DAM:
MOTION: To issue letter requesting that emergency measures be taken
to protect wetland interests (flood control and fisheries)
etc. with an eye toward replacing the structure appropriately
so that this problem of deterioration does not recur.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
LETTER FROM BOB MORRISON, OVERALL CONSTRUCTION, regarding Mill Pond
offering to deepen the pond at no cost to the town.
Comm. Powers suggested acknowledging letter with thanks, with a cc to
the Board of Selectmen, and also noting that before such work could be
done, an assessment Must be done, permits must be secured, etc. with
thought given to amounts of gravel to be removed, effects on pond, etc_.
Dick Lewis suggested that given the low water- levels, this might be a
good time to do some borings for the Mill Pond work. Commission gave go-
ahead to do test borings. Dick will mention it to Bob Swanson.
MOTION: To send above letter as discussed.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
RE- ORGANIZATION: The Town Manager has announced that effective 9 -7 Dan
Clifford will be head of the Highway Dept. and Dave Archard will be in
charge of the Water Division; Bob Swanson will be in charge of engineering.
Comm. Powers suggested trying to get a maintenance plan from DPW, Water,
Sewer. All three need some understanding of what is expected of them in
maintenance issues. The commission will send a letter- requesting the Town
Manager's cooperation in getting those three division treads to prepare such
maintenance plans and discuss them with commission as above.
MOTION: So moved.
(Powers - Sadowski; all in favor) VOTED
Carl Nelson: Chairman Cauldwell urged Dick to get Atty. Mangiarotti moving
on this matter.
The meeting adjourned at 11:15.