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HomeMy WebLinkAboutBOH Minutes 5/17/1984Public Hearing Paul Schulz May 17, 1984 Present: Chairman Tartufo, Clerk Rosenberg, Peter Fontanini, Louis Diamond, Health Agent, Karl Drown Chairman Tartufo: The purpose of tonight's meeting is for a hearing regarding Mr. Paul Schulz, his property located at 172 Balcom Street. The background on this was that Mr. Paul Schulz was sent a violation letter by Karl, a notice dated April 28, 1984 saying that he was in violation of the Board of Health Regulations concerning the abondment and proper storage of vehicles of Chapter 16 of our Regulations. We then recieved a response from his attorney Mr. George Ruboy regarding Karl's letter to Paul Schulz. He requested a hearing. At our previous meeting we then sent a letter to Mr. Schulz,.dated May 10, 1984. Mr. Ruboy's letter to us was dated May 4, 1984. The letter dated May:.10, 1984, copies to Mr. Ruboy informing him that a hearing would be held on May 17, 1984, at the Town Hall. M� °. Ruboy responded by telephone that he would be here this evening. I would like to invite Mr. Ruboy or Paul Schulz, if you would feel more comfortable up here at the table. Mr. Ruboy: I will stay here. I do not know if anybody that is here is here for this hearing? Chairman Tartufo: Our only purpose for tonight's meeting is the hearing. There is not anything else scheduled on our agenda. Mr. Ruboy: Tonight I made an on -sight inspection of the property. This is my first chance to see what Paul and Carol have done in the process of moving their house. The foundation is put in and I went over to see on West street that the house is on a tractor and is going to be moved over next Tuesday if the weather permits. That is the first day that the moving crew is available. The time frame to which I spoke to Karl on the telephone about, seeing that Paul is very busy having moved the barn over and setting it up and trying to complete the barn, plus moving the house over and getting that all tied in with the services required and moving in. I noticed that Paul has done alot of land clearing. Before you get up to the house area there are some logging trucks in front to which Paul wanted the neighbors to keep an eye on. They have cleared a little area in the back as a greenage and it is there intention that once the house is over there and everything is on cite then they can devote their time to tieing the house to the fondation and the utilities. Paul then can spend some time clearing his land in a way that he can keep his equipment for the land clearing business in back. When I spoke to Karl, it was my feeling that Paul would need probably to the end of June at least to clean up his property. I did not rea- lize that Paul had made so much progress. However, from talking to Paul and Carol it seems that they will need probably until the end of July to complete tieing in the house. During this time they will be doing some work on their land. It is their plan to take'some land behind the foundation and the barn which is not visable from the any of the lot lines and store some of their heavy equipment. As far as some of the cars described in your regs. as wrecked, he as a couple of old trucks he has purchased as wrecks. He uses these trucks for parts for his working trucks. He has a couple of antique cars which he wants to restore. Some of the other cars he has no value for so he has no problem getting rid of them. He will use some of the car parts Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Two for money in the bank. . -When he gets settled he can build himself a stockgade fence or another little barn to store his parts. There are alot of complaints in the neighborhood in the last year or so. It has come about at a time when Paul has just moved in and really has not had the time to work on that phase. He brought these in there with the intention of doing what he has to clean up his property. I think that he can comply with your regs. in terms of section three saying that no person shall allow any dismantled wreck except said vehicle which is in an enclosed building or in an area unexposed to the public. He feels with nine acres he can hold these vehicles until he has a chance to take out the parts that he needs, he just needs some time. That is why when I spoke to Karl I thought maybe if we could not get it cleaned up by the end of June then at that time we could set a time for a hearing and find out from Paul when he could get things cleaned.up. I do not know that the Board is going to have an objective to their land cleaning equipment partically that they are now living there, they can move this equipment to the back for more room in the front. As you go in there you can see that the area has been cleaned that trees have been taken down. Some of the timber has been stacked and alot of'the timber has been cut up for fire- wood or in round. They intend to clean up the area; this is their home. They would like the chance to get at least a couple of months under their belts so they can get their home sqaured away. Chairman Tartufo: May I ask you a few questions? Mr. Ruboy: Sure Chairman Tartufo: How may vehicles does he have? Mr. Ruboy: I did not count the vehicles but I would say that I saw about three trailers -- temporaly, some heavy excavating equipment -- logging trucks, bull- dozer, but as far as not allowed, two old trucks, about six cars, one of which is a thirty -year old antique which he intends to restore, another is not as old but he hopes to restore. The rest he justs wants-to get the parts. What is important is important -- you know money in the bank for the parts. Chairman Tartufo: Karl what type of vehicles did you see? Karl S. Drown: There is a couple of buses, truck, old school buses Mr. Ruboy: I saw one school bus. Is that bus operable? Mr. Schulz: Yes it could be. Mr. Ruboy: i did not mention the bus because I thought he was using the bus as storage. With in the next couple of months I am sure Paul can make arrangements to some how deal with that bus. I do not know what he can do with it at the mean time, I did not even realize that he was not using it as storage. Chairman Tartufo: Which are these vehicles are registered? Mr. Ruboy: I do not think any of them are registered. None of them are registered. There is no real reason to register them if he is only going to use the parts. Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Three Chairman Tartufo: Other members of the Board are there any questions you would like to ask? Any comments? Clerk Rosenberg: One of the concerns as well as several other Boards in Town, over the last several years has been the quality of the water. We are very concerned about the storage of abandoned vehicles because when a car is ready to be abandoned tranmission seals, oil -pan seals, gaskets, etc... begin to rot. Fluids start leaking out and fluids get into the ground into the water supply. It is a problem. It is going to happen to a certain degree but we are trying to keep it down to a certain degree. When we see the amount of vehicles you have we get a little concerned about that. Especially with the intent that you plan to strip out the engine; fluid has to come out of that. That bothers me. I can understand that he is in the process of moving but I do not know if I want to extent this to the end of July time schedule, I will have to think about that. Peter Fontanini: I did not get a chance to go down and view the property or the vehicles so I can not say much of what the situation looks like. We are talking about a total of about fifteen vehicles. Including the buses. Mr. Ruboy: Taking into consideration the permitted vehicles and the vehicles he is not using, all together it might be between about six cars, couple trucks and a bus. The trailers will be gone as soon as the house is connected. Peter Fontanini: I do not think we are discussing the tractor trailers or the construction equipment. Mr. Ruboy: What we are talking about are the vehicles he has there for using parts. I can recall about six cars and two trucks. Again I just went dorm there tonight for the first time. Peter Fontanini: Are there anymore on West Street? Mr. Ruboy: No there is not, the only left at West Street is the house which is on a trailer. Peter Fontanini: Which again has nothing to do with us. Mr. Ruboy: If I may address the gentlemen's comment about the fluid which leaks out. I did not ask Paul, but I assume that that work will be done in the barn. He intends to have a concrete'floor. I do not think you will have leakage from the fluids. Clerk Rosenberg: If the gaskets, and seals etc. . and the vehicles are out on open ground the fluids have to go some where. Mr. Ruboy: That is true. We are assuming they are not rbttinq away. I do. not know how long these cars will be there. I do not think we are talking about more fluids than a normal oil change. That is certainly not a lot. Paul is not going to let this happen because he is living there and working there. I see no reason why he can not dispose of these fluids in such a matter. Clerk Rosenberg: Assuming that they are trapped. Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Four Chairman Tartufo: To the best of your knowledge then there are three trailers which are being used as storage and the problem we are addressing is two old trucks,.six cars and two buses on the property and assorted parts. Mr. Ruboy: The parts will not be there once Paul has had a chance to clean up his property. Chairman Tartufo: What I would like to do now is if there are any comments from the audience would like to make or some observers who would like to speak you may do so now. Leslie Haley: I live at 192 Balcom Street and my land does abut your land in the back. I beg to differ with your lawyer from my backyard. This is spring now and I can still see the cars through the leaves. I am sure nobody wants a car dealer in the neighborhood. We just do not need all those abandoned vehicles there. We do not want them. Even with a stockgade fence they are still there. There is alot.of little kids in the neighborhood. It is a hazard. You just do not leave cars around and say you are going to use the parts I mean it could take you ten years to use all the parts. Chairman Tartufo: Anyone else? Steve Neuws: I live right across the street at 169 Balcom Street. I have to agree with most of what she said. My main concern is that my house value. I bought my house just recently and it is valued very highly now but ten years from now if there is alot more junk cars then what will be the value of my house then? Chairman Tartufo: Anyone else? I think that part of the problem we have is that Mr. Schulz is coming from a zone which is zoned industrially. He has been there for years and years operatin4 his business. He has now moved to an area which is very residential and rural taking along his vehicles which he had at the previous address. Within our regulations we do have an execption for the repair of an vehicle if it is an antique which is only one of them which is thirty years old which would qualify as antiques. I do not think we can allow the cars to sit there in the case that he needs a spare motor one day or a spare part of some part and then take that out. This is operating another business. It would be stretching our regulations if we allowed that to happen. We realize the problem the neighbors are having and the problem that Mr. Schulz is having moving from an industrial zoned area to a residential. area. I think that everybody wants to live together on that street including Mr. Schulz and the people that are here tonight. I hope vie can come to some agreement of a time frame for Mr. Schulz to remove the vehicles which do not apply to the regulations and in the same make the neighbors satisfied that that will take place. If so we will have a simple situa- tion. There are some vehicles which should not be there. Granted he will be putting up a barn to take care of fixing the vehicles which that barn should be for his business proper and not for his additional activities. I think everybody fears the unknown, when they see him coming in with his trailer.and not knowing what is in the trailer and then seeing him coming in with all the other cars and you know whats' next there is going to be a junk car lot which exists here. He has a very valuable investment in his property. He spent a considerable amount of money for that property and that is his home and he wants to live there in peace as to all the other neighbors do. Again I think we can work something out this evening to Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Five I think the problem vie have to address is the two old trucks which are not part of his business and the other vehicles which are not antiques and the two buses which of other things on. Mr. Rosenberg also mentioned that one of the concerns is what happens with the storage of vehicles; with what happens with battery acid and gas- oline and the oil. The Town does have some very valuable land along the river and all it takes is one gallon of gasoline to pollute seven hundred and fifty thousand gallons of water. So I feel we do have some very reasonable problems here. Mr. Ruboy: As far as the trucks are concerned those trucks are there for his business vehicles. He is not in the repair business. I have never known him to be a business man in that matter. He does not sell his parts to the public. Just to try and get settled and I think that the concern that Mrs. Haley has regarding being able to see the vehicles from her property. The vehicles she sees now will not be there when Paul has had a chance to clear more land and I would that then they would be able to keep those vehicles out of sight. In terms of children and the hazards; they do not want a junk yard there and I do not think the Schulz §' want a junk yard there. In terms of Mr. Neuws property value none of us want to buy property and then see the price go down or the value go down. There is no question that the concerns of Mr. Neuws and Mrs. Haley are valid or that Mr. Rosenberg's concern about leakage. I just hope we can come to a time frame to give the Schulzs time enough to get things straightened out. The roof is all tacked on barn but there is still alot of work to do dealing with that. He is going to need the summer. Mrs. Haley mentioned the fact that the leaves are beginning to spread maybe she will not see the vehicles there when the leaves are full but when the winter comes the leaves will not be there and I am sure she does not want to see the vehicles there. All they want is a chance to clean up their property once they can get the house all tied in. They need some time. Chairman Tartufo: O:K Thank you very much. Mrs. Haley Edward Rosenberg would like to ask you a question. Clerk Rosenberg: You referred your comments to small children. Can you give me an idea of how many kids are in the neighborhood? . Mrs. Haley: Between the ages of three and sixteen - seventeen I would say about twenty -five to thirty with a seven to eight mile radius. May I just clarify one thing. About not being able to see when the leaves come out. The leaves are out and I can see now. Chairman Tartufo: Lets try and address each one of these one by one. The three trailers, does anybody on the Board have any problem with the three trailers. Clerk Rosenberg: Mr. Shulz must tranmit his belongings some -how of that is no problem with me. Chairman Tartufo: Lets go to the two old trucks now. How about the two old trucks? Clerk Rosenberg: It seems to me that rather than leave the vehicles there until Mr. Schulz needs a spare part; I can not buy that. The problem I have is not only Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Six with the leakage problem but also with the small kids. I have.small kids and I known what small kids get into. If there is twenty -five to thirty kids in that neighborhood, as careful as the Schulzs' can be those kids are going to get on their property. If those kids start playing around the trucks or the buses they are going•to get hurt. That really bothers me. I would like to request that Mr. Shulz take out the parts that.he would like, store them in the barn and then get rid of the rest of the car body as quickly as possible. I can not see leaving these vehicles there until he needs a spare part. Mr. Ruboy: Mr. Schulz plans on doing that but he needs some time. Clerk Rosenberg: How much time is the answer. I am perfectly willing to give him time but I can hot go along with leaving those vehicles there.until he decides to pull out the engine.:or what ever the case may be, Peter Fontanini: Under the circumstances with moving the house and everything why don't we give him'like ninty days, till the first of September, the end of summer. Clerk Rosenberg: What bothers me again Peter is the kids, coming up on the summer. Peter Fontanini: Well he can not stop moving the house-and he can not stop build- ing the house. The cars are already there. Clerk Rosenberg: Obviously the house has to get settled and the foundation tied down and the utilities put in and,.he has to get moved into the house. That is number one with him right now, I can understand that. Chairman Tartufo: It is the general idea of the Board that Mr. Shulz should take the parts out of the two old trucks that he wants and then get rid to the rest of the remaining trucks. These parts will have to be stored probably inside the barn. Now let me move on to the six cars. The six automobiles one of which is a thirty year old automobile which could qualify as an antique. Clerk Rosenberg: I have no problem with Mr. Schulz keeping an automobile as an antique as long as it is stored probably in inside storage and it is a controlled situation. I think the vehicle should be in the barn and you should issue a permit to Mr. Schulz with whatever restrictions we want to put on there. Anybody wishing to keep an unregistered vehicle has an antique should be required to keep it under controlled conditions. Chairman Tartufo: Are there any comments about the one antique and the other remaining five vehicles? Clerk Rosenberg: As far as the other remaining five vehicles he will have to take parts out and then get rid of the bodies. Chairman Tartufo: How about the two buses? Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Seven Clerk Rosenberg: It seems to me and if I am wrong Mr. Schulz, please correct me I tend to interpert the bus situation as temporaly storage until the barn gets completed. Or is it your intention to keep parts stored in the buses permanetly? Mr. Ruboy: I do not think we have addressed that issue. Chairman Tartufo: Well lets-address it now. Mr. Ruboy: We can address it but I think I need some time to work out an arrange- ment with Mr. and Mrs. Schulz. I don't know. I have not addressed this situation because I was not aware of that being a problem. They are storing parts in the buses now. There may be a way for them to get the fluids out of the vehicles and get the vehicles out of sight until such time so that he can build another barn. It is cheap storage right now. Peter Fontanini: It stills falls under the catagory of a motor vehicle. Mr. Ruboy: I understand that Chairman Tartufo: It.is an unregistered abandoned vehicle Clerk Rosenberg: It may be a cheap storage but it-still is an unregistered abandoned vehicle and in my view avery dangerous storage with the kids in the S area. Mr. Ruboy: I understand that. He may be, by the end of.the summer able to build another barn and put all of his vehicles in it, but I do not know with the time frame he has. I do know that it is his intention to comply with the law. As you gentlemen have correctly discussed he is in the process of moving and he needs some time. tie can not stop the house from coming down the house. One other thing I would like to mention regarding the children., when he moved things over before he could get into the moble home the kids were in and out of.there and he told me early tonight that there was three kids coming through there last Saturday night and set off some firecrackers, but now that they are there it is not likely that kids are going to be in and out of their property. They are going to see that kids are to stay out of their property. Chairman Tartufo: I tend to agree with you Clerk Rosenberg: With all due respect I tend to disagree. I live in a neighborhood with there are alot of little kids, mine amoung them and I have kids cutting through my yard constantly. As much as you tell them they are still going to do it. Mr. Ruboy: Even with heavy duty equipment. Clerk Rosenberg: That is an attraction for them. Mr. Ruboy: I know it is an attraction Clerk Rosenberg: What kid do you know that does not want to climb up on a bull - dozer and play macho -man. Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Eight Chairman Tartufo: Lets address the barn situation. He presently has one barn. Mr. Ruboy: That barn is for the purpose of working on Mr. Shulz's work trucks. Peter Fontanini: What is the size of the barn. Mr. Ruboy: About thirty by thirty (feet) Peter Fontanini: So it is a food size barn. Chairman Tartufo: What are his plans to build another barn? 'Do you have any idea what size? Mr. Ruboy: We have discussed it but we have not got a break down. He has more land here than he had on West Street. We will work together to clean up the cars and the buses to get those parts cleaned up. I think this gentlemen's suggestion for Labor Day is a reasonable suggestion. Chairman Tartufo: Again I have asked you questions on an addition barn and you still have not commented on it. Mr. Ruboy: He does not want to now but I see no reason why if necessary he can not put up another barn. Chairman Tartufo: Again since we have an audience here, you have suggested a time frame I would like to ask the residents about a ninty day time frame for him to remove the vehicles we want removed. Mrs. Haley: To me that seems like such a long time only because it only took him a week and a half to get them in there. So why does it take him ninety days to get them out of there. Chairman Tartufo: Karl how do you feel about the ninety day time frame? Karl S. Dram: I think it is too long. I would recommend to the Board anywhere from the beginning of July or to the beginning of August at the most. That is sixty days. Louis Diamond: I like the end of July. Clerk Rosenberg: I like the end of July. It certainly can not take more than a month to get the house on the foundation and the utilities put on. Peter Fontanini: I am not arguing.about.the time. That stills gives them sixty - five, sixty -three days. That is amble time to do what ever he has to do to meet the code. Clerk Rosenberg: It seems to me a thirty by fifty barn; I understand that is the size of the barn, I can not see a logging vehicle taking up the whole barn. Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Nine Chairman Tartufo: He has a bull - dozer. He needs all that space just for his land clearing equipment. He has some substantial equipment in there. The other question I had is about the location of the vehicles on the property; are they scatted, are they all in the same spot? Mr. Ruboy: As you come in on a long drive -way, sixty to seventy yards back then there is a curve, I saw a couple trailers, a bus. Then you come up to the house or foundation, right of which way is a tractor trailer. The drive -way to the barn curves over to the left and around and the barn is behind the house. There is a patch of evergreens between where the house will be and the barn. In the drive- way parked is some of his land - clearing equipment. When you then get to the junc- tion when the road curves to the right of the barn; to the left is clear land and the old vehicles are to the left. Then there is another low clearage which will be made larger but it was made for drainage purposes. That area can be-inlarged for the storage of bigger vehicles. He is not going to keep his big vehicles up near the street, he would rather keep them near the house. As Paul Jr. said to me tonight the logging equipment which was kept close to the house, it was probably about one - hundred feet from the road, was kept there so that one of the nei.ghbors' which knows them could keep an eye on the equipment. Novi that they are there theyin- terd on moving the equipment back further. They have alot of land back there. Chairman Tartufo: Mrs. Haley.can you seethe barn from your property? What is closer now the vehicles you can see or the barn? Mrs. Haley: Looking out from my window the barn is closer. I can see the barn. Chairman Tartufo: What I was thinking was that until we can set some time period if those vehicles could be moved behind the barn rather than on the side. That is why I asked which one could be viewed from your house. *They all proceded to look at a map of Balcom Street in discussion of Mrs. Haley view of Mr. Schulz's property. Mrs. Haley: Is this the road right here? Mr. Ruboy: This is the road there Mrs. Haley: O:K, Files are here,.then there is an old farm house then ray house is back in there Clerk Rosenberg: So what Karl is saying is that the barn is back here somewhere. Chairman Tartufo: How does he get to the barn Karl? Karl Drown: There is a road -way which goes around the tree area to the barn. The lot lines are right along here. Mr. Ruboy: The foundation is in here, and it comes around to here. Public Hearing PPuI Schulz P, � Ten Chairman Tartufo: Using the barn as a temporarly screen is not going to work. Mr. Ruboy: Actually any vehicle from here, the vehicles are on this side; as I see it, the moble home is over here and the foundation for the house, the barn is over here and the vehicles are over here. One question I did have was that Mrs. Haley stated that the vehicles she did see she was not sure whether they were the registerd vehicles or the unregistered vehicles. The unregistered vehicles will be hidden from sight. Chairman Tartufo: We have not stated that yet. What I would like to do is to take these one step at a time, address each one of them and then the Board can agree on the steps and we can make one motion. The first thing will be the time period, some- one here mentioned August 1, 1984. Peter Fontanini: August 1, 1984.will give them seventy -two days. Chairman Tartufo: The second point is the two old trucks. Clerk Rosenberg: Well it seems to me that you are talking about two different things. lik(I am perfectly willing to grant Mr. Schulz a permit to keep the vehicle he would :o keep if he would so apply for one; thats' one thing now we are talking aboi the trucks and the remaining cars, the'buses and the parts in the buses. :had. .ian Tartufo: Again, lets address each one seperatly. The two trucks - Remove the parts wanted and needed and put them in storage. Then get .rid of the )ody of the trucks and the remaining he does not wish to use. A erk Rosenberg: What ever he wants to keep from the vehicles, that is fine but ust get rid of the rest of it. hairman Tartufo: O:K the six automobiles. One of them qualifies as an antique, or restoration; the remaining five do not. titer Fontanini: Again he will have to stripe the parts that he wants and needs and ien get rid of the bodies. He will have to store the parts. Perk Rosenberg: May I ask Mr. Schulz a question? tairman Tartufo: Yes erk Rosenberg: Mr. Schulz why are you keeping six cars besides the car you want restore. .. Schulz: For the parts Ruboy: I do not think there is any real answer they just grew and he did not do !r thing about them. rk(,,,,senberg: It is the same thing as the trucks, if he wants to keep parts from 'm then fine, but then get rid of the rest of them. M Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Eleven Chairman Tartufo restore he can. Peter Fontanini: Chairman Tartufo Clerk Rosenberg: Lets address the antique. If he wants to keep the antique to Well that will easily fit in the barn. Get it out of sight. That will also satisfy me as far as the leakage. Peter Fontanini: If it is an antique and it is outside -,_in the woods, it will not be worth anything in a month anyway so it should be in storage. Chairman: The antique should be out of sight in the barn. Peter Fontanini: Naturally he is allowed to pull it out and work on it. Chairman Tartufo: The other five vehicles, is there any reason to keep them. So stripe the parts and store them and then get rid of the five vehicles. Last is the two buses. Peter Fontanini: Remove the parts from the buses and then get rid of the buses. Mr. Ruboy: Paul tells me that one of the buses is used as a machine shop on the job cite. That bus is cable of being operated. What he can do in view of all this is to get the bus in good condition and get'plates on it. When he is at a job cite and one of his trucks break down he is not going to load it on a flat -body and haul it home. He has his workshop in the bus with him; spare motors. As far as the other bus he may turn the bus into a medal shed. As far as an abandoned vehicles he will have to change the character of the vehicle.so that it is not an abandoned vehicles Chariman Tartufo: When was the last time the vehicle was on the road? Mr. Ruboy: Which vehicle? Chariman Tartufo:. The bus Mr. Ruboy: The bus used as a machine shop, oh I do not know Peter Fontanini: Well if he brings that up to the registry and has it registered then we have no problem with it. The other one has to go. Chairman Tartufoc He could register all ten vehicles if he wanted to. Peter Fontanini: But he is not going to do that Clerk Rosenberg: If he was to take the second bus and stripe it of the engine, rear- end and the parts that would cause leakage, and put sheet metal on the windows and use it for storage I do not have any problems with that. I can not argue with fact Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Twelve that the bus offers an ideal cheap storage. It saves building a barn. Chairman Tartufo: I think we should treat each of the vehicles as being unregistered. If he turns around and registers them all then that'solves all the problems. Clerk Rosenberg: Well I do not think he is going to register all the vehicles and insure them all. Chairman Tartufo: No, I know he is not going to but if he wants to register and insure one of those buses that is fine. However we should address it has being unregistered. Clerk Rosenberg: Do any of you people have any to say about what I said on the second bus? Louis Diamond: What are you going to make out of a bus? Clerk Rosenberg: There is alot of cubic feet in a bus. You could store alot of things in them. You could store parts in a bus, if it was locked. Steve Neuws: May I say something? What do you mean convert it into - as far as I am concerned turning a bus into a sheet -medal building is as much an eye -sore as a bus. Chairman Tartufo: We can not address it as being an eye -sore. Clerk Rosenberg: I am trying to look at this at both sides of the issue. Steve Neuws: I understand that, Clerk Rosenberg: I can understand the point made by Mr. Ruboy that.the bus is cheap storage. Steve Neuws: Definitely Clerk Rosenberg: I see nothing wrong with that Steve Neuws: Right Clerk Rosenberg: I think the Board has certain responsibilities on putting restric- tions on it. Obviously it has to be out of sight. Steve Neuws: O:K, that is my key point. Clerk Rosenberg: You will have to take out the tranmission and the rear axis so no- thing can get into the ground water suppply. It seems to me for his own prottect on and the neighbor's peace of mind with tt�e children because they are going o ge back there, that you put pieces of sheet medal on the windows and a good pad -lock on the door. I can certainly see giving him the chance to do that if he so desires. I can not fight the fact that it is a cheap way of storing. Because.it is a vehicle Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Thirteen now, then I think we have to address some restrictions to it. I think we should give him the chance to do that. Do any of you have any objections? Chairman Tartufo: No Peter Fontanini: As long as it can no longer be considered a.motdr- vehicle. Clerk Rosenberg: If you take out the transmission, engine and the rear axis then it can no longer be considered a motor - vehicle Peter Fontanini: As long as that is all done Chairman Tartufo: We have to address it has though-it is a vehcile now. Clerk Rosenberg: I know that, I just want to give the chance to do that if he wants to. Chairman Tartufo: O:K, let me repeat these: 1) the time peroid he has to cotrect the violations will be August 1, 1564 2) regarding the two old trucks, remove the parts wanted and needed, put those.in storage, inside storage - the barn and then get rid of the remaining parts. 3) the six automobiles - the first one which is the antique remove it from sight and put it in the barn also the second part of this issue is the remaining five vehicles remove the five vehicles 4) the last issue is the buses - We are going to address it presently as a motor - vehicle. Remove the parts from the buses put those parts in storage and then get rid of the buses If he so desires to take one of those buses and put it back on the road then that eliminates that problem If he so desires to take one of those buses and turn it into a building by removing the wheels and every part of it then he has a building in- stead of a vehicle, the Board sees no objection to that. Again I think it is in the best interests of everybody that it is put in a spot out of sight Additional Comments? Mrs. Haley: You said he has to get rid of five vehicles, well when I looked over there I saw more than five vehicles; about ten or eleven. Chairman Tartufo: Then lets say get rid of all of the vehicles except the antique and the registered vehicles Peter Fontanini: You forgot all the loose parts, which should be put in the barn or some kind of storage Chairman Tartufo: Again I think that is a matter of the problem of just moving. Mr. Ruboy: Gentlemen I did not write down in my notes five vehicles because I can not recall myself how many vehicles, at least half a dozen. Public Hearing Paul Schulz Page Fourteen Chairman Tartufo: Comments Mr. Ruboy? Mr. Ruboy: No, I will explain to Mr. and Mrs. Schulz that this Board has been very good in its' discussion and I will make copies of the regulations and they are going to do everyth*ng they can to settle in there as §ood neighbors. Chariman Tartufo: What I would like then is a motion from the Board, we will type these up as far as conditions and send them to Mr.-Schulz with a copy to Mr. Ruboy. MotionY that the Board set the restrictions for Mr. Schulz Clerk Rosenberg - Peter Fontanini, all in favor) Motion: to adjourn public hearing Louis Diamond - Peter Fontanini, all in favor) 7 li�y CLERK l DATE —�T- /J 1 MOTION 1. That Mr. Schulz shall correct all violations of Board of Health regulations at 172 Balcom Street, by August 1, 1984. 2. That Mr. Schulz remove from the two old trucks any parts needed and counted, that these parts be put into an inside - storage and that the remaining parts /vehicle carcasses-:be properly disposed of. 3. That the antique car be removed from sight by putting it in the barn, under cover, and that all other unregistered vehicles be properly disposed of. 4. That Mr. Schulz take the necessary actions to properly dispose of the two buses. The Board has instructed its Agent, Karl.S. Drown, to periodically inspect the property to insure compl- iance.