HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Brd Min_7241996PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
July 24, 1996
PRESENT: Chairman French, Clerk Sullivan
PLANNERS: Bonda, Dolan, Flynn, McShane, Penney
Shaun P. Burke, Director of Planning and Development
1. Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M.
Motion: To appoint Clerk Sullivan Acting Chairman
(Flynn - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Z. Site Plan Review - Great Woods Office Park Parking Expansion
The clerk read the correspondence. Howard Kelman, attorney for the applicant,
introduced himself, property manager Alice Tracy, and engineer John Spink.
Mr. Spink explained the property had been purchased one year ago with the
bottom floor unfinished. The owners now have a tenant and would like to finish
that floor. Since the original permits were for existing occupancy, the site plan is
necessary to bring the site into compliance with the zoning by -law. The parking
lot will be extended toward the Norton Reservoir with a curb cut at Reservoir
Street. The parking lot contains a depression where the area drains, and the
existing slopes will be kept with an enlarged lip to keep the flow the same. The
overflow will go toward the reservoir. Landscaping includes shrubs and trees
along the reservoir, with the existing low shrubs and grass retained.
(Chairman French arrived at this point.)
Board Comment
Planner Flynn asked if the plan conforms to the zoning by -law. Mr. Burke told
her it does.
Planner Bonda asked if the police department had reviewed the plan for sight
distance. Mr. Burke said there was a representative at the original site plan
meeting and their concerns were addressed by shifting the curb cut.
Clerk Sullivan asked about the drainage calculations. Mr. Spink said the system
is good for any storm event, but that he matched it for the 25 -year event. He
explained in the 25 -year event, nothing would flow off site, but in higher storms,
water would flow overland to the reservoir, as it does now.
Clerk Sullivan asked how Mr. Spink knew the 25 -year storm would be held. Mr.
Spink responded the area peres at better than two minutes per inch. Mr. Burke
told the board the Town Engineer had reviewed the calculations, and the area had
been a gravel pit, so the materials are good.
Clerk Sullivan asked if there were any catch basins. Mr. Spink said there were
not, just the detention buffer. Clerk Sullivan asked if the site would be putting
any additional water onto the abutting properties. Mr. Spink said not with the
existing soil conditions, but reiterated that in the 100 -year storm there would be
overland flow across the properties.
(Planner McShane arrived at this point, 7:15 P.M.)
Clerk Sullivan asked if there would be lights in the parking lot. Mr. Spink told
him there would be lights on the back of the building and there is an existing light
at Reservoir Street,
Planner Dolan asked if there was a way for the board to prevent salts and other
materials from going into the reservoir. Mr. Burke said there was not under site
plan review, and he had spoken with Mr. Lewis and because of the site's
distance to the reservoir, the plan won't be going to the Conservation
Commission. Planner Dolan said he thought if the town is working on something
like that, businesses in town should as well.
Mr. Spink explained they had looked into water quality, and the site is not in a
water supply or acquifer recharge area, so at this time, there is no water- related
quality control.
Attorney Kelman asked about using calcium chloride. Ms. Tracy explained that
for walkways, their snow removal policy is to not use salt products, and last
winter started using calcium chloride instead.
(Planner Penney arrived at this point.)
Planner McShane mentioned the state has been experimenting with calcium
chloride. Clerk Sullivan was concerned that if the area peres so well, whatever
they use will go into the ground. Planner Flynn asked the board to keep in mind
the recreation potential of the reservoir and said she was sure the Road
Commissioners would establish a policy on snow removal chemicals.
Attorney Kelman said they would be willing to go along with any policy set. He
mentioned there is a handicapped ramp behind building 792, and they would like
to keep the handicapped parking spaces in the front of the building, but move two
or three to be near the ramp.
Planner Penney noted three and one half spaces per 1,000 are required for one
building, but five are required for the other buildings. Attorney Kelman explained
there is a sliding scale based on the size of the building. Planner Penney asked if
building 800 has four stories. Mr. Spink said it has three stories and a basement,
which is the area to be finished.
Planner Penney said the zoning by -law requires one loading area, but the plan
does not show one. Attorney Kelman explained the building doesn't receive large
deliveries, except office supplies, and there is one loading area. Planner Penney
requested the area be identified on the plan.
Planner Penney asked if directional arrows are to be painted on the pavement.
Mr. Spink said they are not, and Planner Penney suggested they be added at the
entrance and exits.
Clerk Sullivan asked where snow is stored. Mr. Spink explained it is stored
around the perimeter of the site and on the islands. After the new parking is
added, it will be stored around the edges of the parking area.
Chairman French asked if the parking lot has catch basins or drains. Mr. Spink
told him there are existing drains to catch basins in South Main Street, and the
new area flows toward the reservoir without catch basins. Chairman French asked
what would happen if accumulated snow were stored around the edges and it
rained. Mr. Spink said there would always be an opening to the drainage
depression. Ms. Tracy said if there is too much of a pile up, they would have the
snow removed from the site.
Motion: To send the Building Inspector a positive recommendation with the
following suggested conditions. 1. The use of salt be minimized
because of the proximity of the site to the Norton Reservoir; 2. the
loading area be shown on the plan; 3. directional arrows be painted on
the pavement at both entrance; 4. no snow storage will be allowed in
the drainage depression area; 5. handicapped parking spaces may be
rearranged so some are near the handicapped ramp, provided the
number of handicapped spaces remains the same.
(Sullivan - Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
3. Correspondence
1. Memo from Mr. Williams RE: Hiring Freeze
2. Memo from Dan Clifford RE: Partial Release Stearns Hill Estates
Motion: To approve the release amount
(Sullivan - Flynn) Five in favor. McShane/Penney abstained. PASSES
Mr. Burke updated the board on the status of Massapoag Estates, saying as a
result of the last big storm, additional rip rap will be added to some areas. Mr.
Clifford has met with the paving contractor, who is hoping to get underway next
week, however, the contractor would like to be paid directly and is working that
out with the Treasurer's Office. Mr. Burke said most of the work should be done
by the following Friday.
Planner Flynn requested an item dealing with loam specs and type be added to the
work list.
4. Public Hearing Continued - George Fram Estates
The clerk read new correspondence. Planner McShane suggested the deed be
changed to reference Article 49 and Article 97, where Article 97 is the provision
governing open space and conservation land.
In a straw vote, three members were in favor of leaving the deed as is, with three
in favor of adding a reference to Article 97.
Mike Hinchey, Hinchey Landscaping, told the board when he was first contacted
about this project, the concept was for a village using narrow roads, boulders,
landscaping, indigenous plants, etc., to lessen the impact of the development. He
said he thought granite curbing would take away from the intent of that.
Board Comment
Planner McShane said Mr. Folkman had mentioned he was willing to give up the
sidewalk waiver, but was still planning to seek the waiver from granite. Mr.
DeGirolamo told him they were still seeking both waivers.
The clerk read the draft special permit decision, and the board made changes to
some conditions.
#3 - The open space parcel will be given to the Town of Mansfield Conservation
Commission under amended Articles 49 and 97 of the Mass Constitution. Planner
Flynn said she thought a Town Meeting vote would be needed for the town to
accept the land. Mr. Burke said the Town of Mansfield is the legal entity. Clerk
Sullivan suggested adding the land is to be controlled by the Conservation
Commission and that they check with Attorney Mangiaratti on whether a Town
Meeting vote is required.
#5 - The drainage easement shall remain until prior to the issuance of certificates
of occupancy.
#10 - The list of planting materials to be used by the applicant shall be approved
by the board.
#11 - The stone on the walkway will be six inches deep.
#12 - The entrance to the open space area will include landscaping, fencing, and
signage.
#22 - This provision does not apply to the light poles and individual driveway
lights shown on the plan.
The board discussed the waivers requested.
Waiver 4 - Planner McShane asked if the landscaping plan showed street trees.
Mr. Hinchey said it does not because he doesn't know what will be saved at this
point. Planner McShane suggested the waiver be changed to Section 4.8 to allow
for the preservation of indigenous existing trees throughout the project in
accordance with the landscaping plan, to replace the requirement of trees being
planted every 50 feet.
Waiver 5 - Chairman French asked the draft be changed to reference cut -de -sacs.
Waiver 6 - Chairman French asked the draft be changed to reference monolithic
cape cod berm.
Planner Penney asked what the tangent between the reverse curves is. Mr. Burke
told him it is approximately 135 feet, with the requirement being 150 feet
Motion: To close the public hearing
(Sullivan - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Motion: To approve Waivers 1 -5 as amended
(Sullivan - Bonda)
Planner Penney said he would only be willing to grant waivers if he sees they
present a clear benefit to the town. Clerk Sullivan said he thought the idea of a
cluster is to allow give and take and creativity. Chairman French said the benefit
of the cluster was that the traditional approved subdivision could have been built
without any open space going to the town. Planner Penney said the benefits to the
town are minimal. Clerk Sullivan was concerned that if the board does not allow
flexibility in clusters, it will send the message clusters aren't wanted.
Mr. Burke said he would agree with Planner Penney if this were a traditional
subdivision, but because a special permit requires a supermajority, developers
tend to shy away from doing clusters. Here, the board has tried to work with the
individual site, and the open space can be shared by everyone in town, instead of
just the subdivision residents.
Planner McShane asked if the waivers required five of seven votes. Mr. Burke
explained the waivers require a simple majority.
Planner Flynn was of the opinion developers doing clusters save money up front
on frontage, sideyards, and smaller lots. Then they request waivers and say the
money saved by not doing the waiver items will be put back into landscaping and
signage. Planner Flynn said she thought the original savings should allow these
items anyway, without waivers requested, and didn't think the board should
allow so many waivers.
Five in favor. Penney and Flynn opposed. PASSES
Motion: Not to approve Waiver 6
(Flynn- Penney)
Planner Dolan said he had been against the waiver, but Mr. Clifford and
Mr. Azinheira were both comfortable with it and felt the monolithic cape cod
would be better for maintenance and cost.
Planner Penney agreed, saying he had been in favor of sloped granite, but has
decided monolithic cape cod berm would be best in this instance.
Chairman French said he supports the waiver and said the board has worked with
the developer and he wants them to achieve the design they have worked on.
Planner Penney said some people consider granite better from a safety point -of-
view, but it is not.
Flynn in favor. Six opposed. FAILS
Motion: To approve Waiver 6 as amended
(Dolan- Sullivan) Six in favor. Flynn opposed. PASSES
Planner Flynn said she would like the cape cod berm to be consistent with other
cape cod berm in town.
Motion: To amend to include monolithic cape cod berm be similar to previously
approved cape cod berm. (Sullivan- Withdrawn
Motion: To deny Waiver 7
(McShane - Dolan)
Planner McShane.was of the opinion one sidewalk makes no sense from safety
and symmetry points of view. Clerk Sullivan agreed one sidewalk would be
asymmetrical.
Chairman French said he supports the waiver because two sidewalks would
urbanize the development. Planner Bonda said she had a problem with a dead end
sidewalk.
Mr. Burke said one of the arguments for sidewalk on one side is the trees the
developer is trying to save on the side with a significant grade change.
Planner Penney said he is an advocate of sidewalks.
Six in favor. French opposed. PASSES
Motion: To approve the plan under special permit and Subdivision Control Law
with the aforementioned conditions and waivers.
(Sullivan - Penney)
Planner Penney - In favor. I have voiced concern about some issues, but
feel the design is superior to a conventional subdivision with its preservation of
conservation land and conservation of open space for conservation and recreation.
Planner Flynn - In favor because of the open space donation to the Conservation
Commission and the development is in keeping with Mansfield's rural look.
Planner Bonda - In favor because it meets the residential cluster development
regulations, because of the open space and conservation land, and because it is a
better use of the land.
Planner McShane - In favor and hope this encourages cluster development, and
because of the preservation of open space next to the Canoe River.
Clerk Sullivan - In favor because of the open space land, the innovative
configuration of the roadway, and it is a better use of the land.
Planner Dolan - In favor because of the above stated reasons.
Chairman French - In favor because of the preservation of a unified parcel
adjacent to the river.
All in favor. PASSES
7. Adjournment
Motion: To adjourn at 9:30 P.M. to attend the Board of Selectmen's meeting
(Dolan- Penney) All in favor. PASSES
Date of next meeting: August 14, 1996 at 7:30 P.M.
Signature of Clerk Date of Approval