HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Brd Min_4101996PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
April 10, 1996
PRESENT:Chairman French,Acting Clerk FlynnPLANNERS:Bd`gda`,Dolln,' ...h(nd' )
Shaun P. Burke, Director of Planning and Development
1. Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M. l 10
Motion:To appoint Planner Flynn Acting Clerk ( Bonda- Dolan)All'in favor.PASSES
2. Public Hearing Special Permit - John Glenn - Auto Repair - 30 Winthrop Ave
The clerk read the public hearing notice.
Motion:Continue the public hearing to 7:55 P.M. (Dolan- Bonda)All in favor.PASSES
3. Correspondence
1. Minutes March 27, 1996
Planner McShane asked his question about the Branch Street residential
compound fee and comment about a policy be added. He also requested
his thanks to Acting Clerk Flynn for her principle and support during his
discussion with a resident be added.
2. Letter from Attorney Mangiaratti RE: Eastleigh Estates
3. Letter from Attorney Mangiaratti RE: Master Plan Consultant Contract
4. Letter from Commonwealth of Mass RE: Public Hearing Players' Choice
5. Letter to Mr. Williams from the NLS Group RE: Radio Tower
6. Letter to Mr. Williams from Exec Office of Administration and Finance
Planner McShane arrived at this point, 7:55 P.M.
2. Public Hearing Continued - Special Permit - 30 Winthrop Street
Attorney Charles Mulcahey said the board had received the information on
this application at a previous meeting, but due to a procedural defect, there
had been no public hearing. He explained the applicant is requesting the use
of an existing building for inside mechanical use during regular business
hours, and said the permit can be rescinded if the conditions of approval are
not complied with.
Michael Trowbridge, Hutchins- Trowridge Associates, pointed out the existing
driveway off Warren Street and Winthrop Avenue and a previously approved
five -unit section of the building. He said auto repair would be limited to bays
A, B, and C as shown on the plan; at this point, only one bay would be used.
Attorney Mulcahey noted because the site is in the Industrial 3 zone, a special
permit is required. He said there had been an earthen berm behind the
building, part of which has been removed. Because the work will be done
inside the building, however, he said there would be no noise problem, but if
there are complaints, the Building Inspector can investigate and the permit can
be rescinded. The Building Inspector will inspect for building code
conformance, so there could not be improper storage or drainage.
Chairman French explained the items the Planning Board must consider
during the special permit process, including those items specified under the
special permit section of the zoning by -law.
Public Comment
Margaret McDonald, 18 Warren Avenue, presented the board with a petition
and said the grant of this special permit would effect the neighborhood's
character, and the health and convenience of the residents.
Fran Keady, 11 Warren Avenue, said the neighborhood had been through a
similar issue with the train station. He was concerned about storage problems;
the children in the neighborhood; the hours of operation, saying the current
business sells diesel fuel and is noisy all night; and the existing traffic
problems. He added there are busses stored on site, he was concerned
about public safety issues, and said Mr. Madan, the owner and member of the
Board of Selectmen, has a financial interest in where the train station goes.
Mr. Keady asked if the business would be expanding more than shown.
Chairman French told the audience issues such as the train station and busses,
are not germane to this special permit.
Sherry Vale, 16 Avon Street, said traffic is a problem and more cars will make
it worse. She said the noise level there is high, and this use would be
dangerous for the children in the neighborhood, as there is no buffer between
the building and the houses.
Mr. Trowbridge said Mr. Madan had originally planned to permit one of the
bays, but was advised to permit all three, so he wouldn't have to come back if
the business expanded. He added the original building was built under site
plan approval, which does not require notice to abutters.
Michelle Madan said there is a 50 foot unbuilt area and the berm was removed
because it was on their property, they were paying taxes on it, and had been
unable to use it, none of which has to do with this special permit.
Mrs. McDonald asked why the bays were marked for auto repair on the plans.
Mr. Trowbridge explained the bays had been permitted as cold storage under
the site plan, and were not shown as auto repair on that plan.
Mr. Trowbridge told the abutters he understood their concerns about the
industrial zone, but said there are other by -right uses that would have more
impact, and would require no public hearing and no notification.
Joseph Sawyer, 23 Warren Avenue, said that does not address the issues he
and his neighbors are concerned about. He said the zoning by -law special
permit requirement says the board consider impacts on the residents of the
town, not just the immediate area, and said this would effect all of the things
the chairman had mentioned earlier.
Board Comment
Acting Clerk Flynn asked Mr. Burke to point out the location of the site.
She suggested customers coming to the site from Winthrop Street would have
the least impact. She said this is an allowed use in the zone but said it might
be better for the applicant to permit one bay at this time, since that is all he
will be using.
Planner Bonda asked about the hours of operation. Attorney Mulcahey told
her they would be 7:00 A.M to 6:00 P.M. or 8:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. six days a
week. Planner Bonda asked what arrangements had been made for oil
disposal. Attorney Mulcahey said the state building code requires waste
stations and drains, and in order to get an occupancy permit, the site will have
to be inspected and comply with the building code. Planner Bonda asked
about sanitary facilities. Mr. Glenn said he would have use of the facilities in
the office. Planner Bonda asked about the potential noise. Mr. Glenn said he
would be using things like air guns inside, and no vehicles will be outside.
Planner McShane asked about the number of cars that would fit inside; Mr.
Glenn said three, but after he installs an office, it will probably be two. Mr.
Glenn explained he had been renting the same amount of space in a building
without a variance, and had to leave. At that site, he said, he had no outside
storage. Planner McShane asked if there was any way there would be
more than three vehicles on the site at any time. Mr. Glenn responded there
was not. Planner McShane asked about hazardous waste disposal. Mr. Glenn
explained he has an EPA certificate and a company lined up for oil disposal.
Planner McShane asked if there were floor drains. Attorney Mulcahey told
him there were not, but a certificate of occupancy would not be issued until
the proper recapture system is installed. Planner McShane asked when the
building was built and was told approximately one year ago. Planner
McShane asked about signage. Mr. Glenn responded he would like one small
sign on the fence. He added he would be doing a lot of work on the road, but
some jobs require a garage.
Mr. Burke had drafted a decision to grant the special permit with conditions,
and suggested some amendments, including permitting only one bay at this
time; prohibiting outside work and storage; prohibiting outside storage of
vehicles, vehicle parts, or hazardous materials; limiting the times of operation
to 8:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. Monday through Saturday with no Sunday work
allowed; excluding body work and painting; limiting access to Winthrop
Avenue and not through Warren Avenue; and prohibiting test driving through
the neighborhood.
Planner Dolan asked how the board could control where customers enter the
site. Mr. Burke suggested the applicant advise his customers to use Winthrop
Avenue. Planner Dolan said he did not see a lot of cars entering the site every
( day, adding he was sympathetic to the neighbor's concerns, but the use is
allowed in the zone and the board has restricted it as much as possible.
Chairman French asked if permitting one bay at this time would be acceptable,
Mr. Trowbridge said it was, and he would prefer bay C be labeled permitted.
Planner Dolan said because this will be a single man operation, he did not
think there would be a lot of cars in the neighborhood every day. He said he
understood the neighbor's concerns, but did not think this would not impact
the existing problems very much.
Public Comment "
Mrs. Vale asked if there were a way to keep the gate onto Avon Street closed.
Chairman French suggested that ties in with access to the facility being kept to
Winthrop Avenue. Mrs. Vale said she didn't think the board was considering
the welfare of the neighborhood in this issue.
Mrs. MacDonald said with all the traffic coming in and out of Winthrop
Avenue, there would be no way to know how many cars are in at one time,
and for what purpose. Mr. Burke explained there are three categories of use in
the zoning by -law, and auto repair in this zone is a special permit use. He
asked if the applicant would consider adding slats to the fence to block the
building from the view of the abutters. Attorney Mulcahey said he was not
sure slats would hide the entire building, and since all work will be done
inside, it would not effect the abutters. Mrs. Madan agreed, saying the
building is 14 feet tall, and the fence only five.
Mr. Sawyer said he thought the reason for the special permit public hearing
was to address concerns from the community and the board's charge is to
consider how the permit would effect the community and neighbors.
Attorney Mulcahey said he did not know the use would have a negative effect
on the neighbors. Planner McShane asked about the Avon Street gate. Mrs.
Madan said the gate is only opened in emergencies, or to test it as fire access.
She said the gate is not generally opened, and they did not want it opened.
Planner McShane asked if a condition could be added that Mr. Glenn would
not use the gate. Attorney Mulcahey said the Fire Chief wanted the gate as an
emergency exit, and Mr. Madan has the only key. Planner McShane said he
would encourage the applicant to reconsider screening in the fence. Mrs.
Madan said she would speak to Mr. Madan.
Motion: To close the public hearing (Dolan- Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
Following the close of the public hearing, Mrs. MacDonald requested back
and received the petition she had presented to the board.
Planner McShane requested a condition be added that Mr. Glenn will not be
responsible for additional use, nor will there be additional use, of the Avon
Street gate as a result of this petition. Planner McShane requested it be
specified the 55- gallon drums be stored inside. Mr. Burke said that was
ious conditions.
covered under the vehicle, vehicle parts, with the prev and hazardous materials condition.
Motion: To approve the special p ermit
(Bonda - Flynn)
Acting Clerk Flynn detrimental to the neighbo hoodiorothe com`mun ty.
Bonda- In favor. The use is in the Industrial 3 zone and I do not see the nehborhood or the community.
significant detrimental imp act to ig
the benefit and
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tax and employment situation. This is a local businessman, and I
feel the other issues have been resolved.
nd though a
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Dolan- In favor. c with the residents, most of the issues brought up here
I do not see a detriment to the area, am
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nothing to do with this issue. roval which
French- In favor. This is an allowed ese t this zone, a reasonable apponditions
the board has placed on the p
will protect the interests of the applicant and the neighbors.
All in favor. PASSES
4, Public Hearing - Chandler's Estates Subdivision - Maystar Realty
The clerk read the public hearing notice and department head
l correspondence.
Mr. Burke explained the board ha
Mr. d his ability to construct a
esidential
d seen and approved this plan as a r
compound, when the applicant demonstrate
traditional subdivision. This is the same plan with a signature block for
approval under Subdivision Control Law, as the applicant's nce, any said
special permit approval does not satisfy the law for conveyance, and the lots
have to be created under Subdivision Control-
ut has not heard bac Burke said
ke said the board
town counsel about the p b law.
would be granting waivers from Sections 5 and 6 of the zoning y
lans, would the developer
Acting Clerk Flynn asked if the board signed the p
roving the plans as
Mr. Burke explained that woul
be able to build a traditional subdivision.
require new plans, because the board would be approving
ound plans.
presented, which are the same as the residential comp
Michael Trowbridge, Hutchins - Trowbridge Associates, said he did not think
the plan had to be approved under Subdivision Contr S. aedsaid e
orked. Applicant Greg e had done a
ambiguous and should be rew p
residential compound in Foxboro, and did the public hearings concurrently.
lained the special permit will be
Planner McShane asked if a decision under Subdivision Control would effect
the special permit decision. Nfr. Burke exp
valid, and would be recorded with the plan and the subdivision decision. Mr.
Burke said the board cannot endorse the plan unless there is a covenant or
surety in place, and the open space is covered by the special permit. Planner
McShane asked why the open space transfer couldn't be included in the
subdivision approval. Mr. Burke said it could, but he was not sure if the
Board of Selectmen had acknowledged the offer. Mr. Trowbridge explained
the Selectmen had waived the filing fee and seemed anxious to acquire the
open space. He said that will need a Town Meeting warrant article.
Public Comment
Tim Bullock, 268 Branch Street, was concerned about the houses being close
to the wetland. Mr. Trowbridge said the wetland is far from the sites that
will be built, and the houses will have roof drains, a dry well system, and a
stone trench along the roadway, so there will be no additional sheet flow off
site. Mr. Bullock disagreed, saying when the site is disturbed, the water will
have to go somewhere.
Mr. Armstrong, 434 Branch Street, said he was also concerned about water
and presented the board with photographs of the site. Mr. Trowbridge
explained he had gone before the Conservation Commission and had the
wetland line established. Mr. Trowbridge said the driveway will be 150 feet
away from the wetlands, and the pictures show the same wet areas as the plan.
Mr. Trowbridge said the water would be put back into the ground, as it is now,
and there is a stone trench along the road. There are no buildings or road in
the flood plain, so no flood plain storage will be lost.
Mr. Bullock asked who would be responsible for water problems on abutters'
properties. Another abutter said the driveway would come out onto the curve
in Branch Street. Chairman French said that had been considered, and a
narrower road was allowed under the special permit, as Officer Lawson was
satisfied with the site distance.
Mr. Spier said the Order of Conditions covers the roadway, and the lots have
individual Notices of Intent.
Planner McShane noted Mr. Armstrong had been concerned about the same
issues at the special permit public hearing, but the plan shows the wetlands.
Mr. Armstrong was concerned about the water flowing toward the Compo
site. Mr. Spier said he had done an extensive site walk with the Conservation
Commission.
Board Comment
Acting Clerk Flynn asked about the trench mentioned in Officer Lawson's
letter. Mr. Trowbridge explained it is on the north side of the driveway and is
two feet deep.
Motion: To close the public hearing (Dolan - McShane)
Acting Clerk Flynn asked for confirmation of the water issues. Planner Dolan
said that had been done with the first plan. Planner McShane said he was also
concerned about the water, but it comes under the Conservation Commission.
He said it is still better to lower the density with the residential compound
than have a traditional subdivision, which would cause worse water problems.
All in favor. PASSES
Planner Dolan said because the board already approved and signed the
residential compound plan, signing this seemed to be a technical issue for the
attorneys. He asked if the applicant could build the traditional subdivision
instead. Mr. Burke said he would build the plans as signed, and said the board
would likely do the public hearings concurrently in the future.
Planner McShane asked if Dick Lewis had any outstanding concerns. Mr.
Burke said he did not, and Mr. Spier said Mr. Lewis had done a site walk.
Motion: To approve the Chandler's Estates plans under Subdivision Control
Law, as the Conservation Commission and Officer Lawson have no
outstanding concerns. (Dolan- McShane) All in favor. PASSES
5. Discussion of Cooper Road Sewer Extension
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, discussed bringing sewer from the
intersection of Mill and East Street to five Sturbridge Estates lots, approved in
1989 and currently on septic systems. (Two of the lots are currently
unbuildable) He said he needs the board's permission to install the line, the
homes could tie in and the sewer could someday be extended into the whole
subdivision and into Tara Estates, as well. Mr. Maloon said the whole system
could be done by gravity, the deepest cut is 11.7 feet at East Street, which is
slated to be repaved, and it would make sense to install the line while the
street is being worked on.
Planner McShane said the Master Plan Committee had been discussing if there
is additional capacity, sewer should be extended into industrial areas or to
solve existing problems, but should not be used to make the two remaining
unbuildable lots in the subdivision buildable.
Planner Dolan said this would be beneficial to all of the residents, and two lots
becoming buildable shouldn't determine whether the project is done.
Mr. Burke said the lots exist and may be percable in another location, but the
greater good would be to have sewer provided to all the houses in the area.
He said the long -range benefits outweigh the two lots becoming buildable.
Mr. Maloon said the soil varies from glacial till to large boulders, and across
Cooper Road is more loamy and finer material. Chairman French asked about
the long -term outlook for the septic systems. Mr. Maloon said the Weaver
Lane areas are marginal, but the others are alright.
Acting Clerk Flynn asked how much sewer line would be installed. Mr.
Maloon said around 1,800 feet at a cost of $85,000. Acting Clerk Flynn said
the board has to look at specific lots in this case, and said the developer took a
chance that not all would perc. Planner Dolan said he did not think two lots
would be a big deal to the developer. Mr. Burke said this would make the two
unpercable lots buildable, and the others easier to sell.
Planner McShane asked what capacity the town is at now. Mr. Burke said he
was not sure, but it is not more than 75 percent. Mr. Maloon said the former
town engineer had been encouraging sewer connections. Chairman French
said this would be a good opportunity, as the septic systems are in glacial till,
in the acquifer district and near the Canoe River.
Mr. Maloon said he would need a permit to put the sewer in, which would be
a modification of the subdivision plan. He asked if that would be a field
modification or require a public hearing. Planner Dolan said he did not think
it would require a public hearing, and he would be in favor of the project.
Planner McShane said he did not like the idea, but did not think it would
require a public hearing. Planners Bonda and Flynn said they thought it
would require a public hearing. Mr. Burke said it wouldn't really effect
anyone's property, as the number of lots wouldn't change, though there would
be the temporary impacts of construction, which would not change any
elevations.
Motion: To support the extension of public sanitary sewer into the Sturbridge
Estates subdivision as shown on Mr. Maloon's plan as long as the
capacity of the line will accommodate the other areas Mr. Maloon
mentioned. (Dolan- French)
Acting Clerk Flynn asked if there would be any expense to the town and was
told there would be none.
Planner Dolan suggested the line run to the edge of the subdivision, another
150 feet or so. Mr. Maloon said it could, but the subdivision uphill is already
built. He said he could put it to the back edge of the property.
Motion and Second Amended: To support the extension if the sewer line is
run to the edge of the property line.
Planner McShane said sewer extension should only be occurring for industrial
expansion or for solving existing septic problems. Chairman French said this
would be a trade -off for the good of the town at no cost to the town.
Two in favor. Three opposed. FAILS
6. Reorganization
Planners Dolan, Benda, Flynn said they liked the board as it is and if
Chairman French was willing, they would like to leave it as is. Planner Flynn
said she was pleased with Mr. French's capable handling of the chairman's
responsibilities.
Motion: To reappoint Mr. French Chairman and Mr. Sullivan Clerk
(Dolan - Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
Chairman French thanked the members of the board for their support.
7. Around the Table
Planner Bonda said she had spoken with Donna Sennott about the citizen -at-
large position on the Master Plan Committee, and Mrs. Sennott is interested.
Motion: To appoint Mrs. Sennett to the vacant citizen -at -large position on
the Master Plan Committee. (Dolan - Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
Acting Clerk Flynn asked if Mr. Burke had received any information about
formulating a noise by -law. Mr. Burke said he had spoken with a DEP rep,
who said noise is difficult to regulate, and most towns use hours of operation
to regulate, not decibel level. Db regulation would require sophisticated °
equipment and a structured schedule of uses with different thresholds for
different uses. The DEP representative suggested if the town were to begin
something like that, it start with hours of operation, then work on the db
regulation. He added it would be tough to find models from other towns.
Acting Clerk Flynn was concerned about the water /fire flow issue brought up
at Town Meeting and said the Planning Board should have been involved in
any discussion on that issue. Mr. Burke agreed, saying if there is a problem,
the board should have been informed a long time ago.
Acting Clerk Flynn suggested sending the Board of Selectmen a letter saying
the board asks the Town Engineer, Water Department, and Fire Chief for
comment on every subdivision it does a public hearing on, and if they have
information about a problem, the board would like to know about it. If there
have been errors made, we should work on correcting them and coming up
with new guidelines, if necessary.
Planner McShane suggested asking the Fire Chief, Water Department, and
Town Engineer to do a presentation as to why there is a problem and invite the
Board of Selectmen.
Motion: To send the Board of Selectmen the above letter.
(Flynn- McShane) All in favor. PASSES
Chairman French mentioned a resident had requested public comment be
moved to earlier in the agenda. Planner Dolan said public comment often
comes as a result of something that occurred during the meeting. Planner
Bonda suggested moving public comment for a few weeks, saying she
understands people don't want to wait until the end of the meeting. Chairman
French suggested moving public comment to follow the last public hearing.
8. Adjournment
Motion: To adjourn at 11:15 P.M.
(Dolan - McShane) All in favor. PASSES
Date of next meeting: April 24, 1996 at 7:30 P.M.
Sig tore of Clerk Date of Approval