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— - -_ - - -- — - _ PLANNING BOARD MINUTES 95 AUG 24 PHI 333 W
August 2, 1995
PRESENT: Chairman French, Acting Clerk Bonda
PLANNERS: Dolan, Flynn, McShanc, Trombetta
1. Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M.
Motion: To appoint Planner Bonda Acting Clerk
(Dolan - Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
2. Correspondence
1. Memo from Shaun Burke regarding the joint meeting on East Street scheduled
for August 16, 1995.
Motion: To reschedule the joint meeting for September 27, 1995.
(Flynn - Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
2. Memo from Mr. Burke regarding Lot B Winslow Estates
Motion: To send the Board of Selectmen a letter suggesting they not pursue
(Flynn- Bonda) All in favor. PASSES `
3. Memo fi•om Mr. Burke regarding the Branch Street residential compound
4. Memo from lbh•. Williams regarding Assistant to the Town Manager
5. Memo from the Local Affairs Committee regarding impact fees
6. Memo from Wolfgang Bauer regarding impact fees
7. Memo from Mr. French to Board of Selectmen regarding Master Plan Update
8. Letter from Mr. Burke to Ron Bonvie RE: Massapoag Estates drainage
9. ZBA decisions
10. Memo from Dan Clifford RE: Partial release Massapoag Estates Bond C
Motion: To release the recommended amount
(Flynn- Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
11. ZBA application for finding - 304 Hope Street
Motion: To send the ZBA a positive recommendation since it is a pre- existing
condition and will not have a detrimental effect on the neighborhood.
(Flynn- Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
12. ZBA application for variance - 251 Central Street
Motion: To send the ZBA a positive recommendation because the addition
would have no detrimental effect.
(Flynn - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
13. ZBA application for variance - Lot 33 Austin Farms
Planner Trombetta entered the meeting at 7:30 P.M.
Motion: To send the ZBA a positive recommendation because to install the
driveway off Goose Lane there would be wetlands filling, so it
would be a better use of the land to put the driveway in off Down.
(Dolan - Flynn)
Planner Flynn said with the amount of wetlands on the site, perhaps there
shouldn't be a home built there at all.
Three in favor. Two opposed. One abstention.
PASSES
( 3. Public Hearing Continued - Eistfield Village
The clerk read new correspondence. Mr. Folkman said he had received the water
report on Monday, July 31, 1995 and had been trying to get together with Dave
Archard, could not, and was not prepared to discuss the water issues. Regarding
blasting, he said there were many more houses within the 1000 feet range than he
had expected. He requested a continuance until August 23, 1995 so he could talk
with staff about the water issues.
Motion: To continue the public hearing until August 23, 1995 at 8:00 P.M. and
continue the Planning Board's final action date until October 5, 1995
(Bonda- Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
4. Discussion with Massapoag Estates Residents
Joe Monaco, Elyse Road, said he and his neighbors are concerned about safety
issues of the drainage area behind their homes. He said the slopes are unsafe,
especially for children, there are open outlet pipes and liability and usability issues
for the residents. He said he would like to have the stone trench at the bottom of
the drainage area moved back from the properly lines and the toe of slope brought
toward the lots, and suggested lvh•. Bonvie should do the work, since he is currently
working on the site anyway. Chaiinan French asked Ralph Maloon, RIM
Engineering, to explain the trench. Mr. Maloon explained it is a detention area
designed for the 100 -year stone, approved under the 1986 regulations, and at
that time a major study was done for this and several other proposed subdivisions.
The clerk read correspondence from department heads relating to the drainage area.
Board Comment
Planner McShane asked how well the drainage area works. Mr. Bonvie told him
the area was dug out five or six months ago and most of the material was used
within the subdivision. He said because he was off on the bottom grades, there has
been some ponding. After receiving calls from the abutters, Mr. Bonvie changed
some grades, and when Mr. Clifford and Ibh•. Burke visited the site found the outlet
of the pipe was high and the bottom of the ditch was raised two feet. Mr. Bonvie
was concerned raising the area more would impact its storage ability, adding that
with the pipes already installed, he really couldn't change the bottom anymore.
Planner McShane asked if raising the bottom compromised the basin's detention
capacity. Mr. Maloon said it had not, and the detention area is still capable of the
100 -year stone adding that it was approved using a different method of figuring
runoff and the original study may be conservative. He said the steepest slope is 3-
1. Mr. Bonvie explained the 4 foot stone trench at the bottom is set for the middle,
and was concerned about erosion if it were placed on the side of the trench, though
the loam on the slope will be screened and seeded.
Planner Dolan asked about the maximum depth of water in the drainage area. Mr.
Maloon said there is an emergency overflow for the water. Chairman French asked
if it would work if the trench was installed on the side and the slopes brought down.
Ivh'. Maloon explained some storage would be lost.
Charles Geis, lot 79, said he had measured the trench when it was brought up two
feet and it also widened the trench two feet. He was concerned about the safety of
the pipes going into the oil /water separators. Mr. Bonvie said lie was willing to add
bars over the moutlis of the pipes.
Planner McShane asked if storage is lost, will there be flooding in the subdivision
or outside the site? Mr. Maloon said the water would not back up onto the site -
the impact would be downstream.
Chairman French explained the board is in a tough spot on the issue since the plan
was approved by a previous board and the detention area is built according to plan.
He said the board is sympathetic to the residents with problems, but asked them to
consider the detention area was designed for storage and that function needs to be
maintained so as to not flood downstream residents. He suggested shifting the
center line of the swale and flattening the slopes. Mr. Maloon said he would check.
Mr. Bonvie was concerned about having to redo the flared end pipe if the stone
trench is moved, and said he did not think it would help the situation.
Planner Flynn said because of the potential magnitude of changing the drainage in
the subdivision and downstream, she thought it should be left as approved other
than some aesthetic modifications for the abutters and staff.
Planner McShane said the storage couldn't be compromised any more than it has
been, but said moving the trench away from the houses to get a more gradual slope
should be explored. Mr. Bonvie said that could be looked at,_but was concerned
the residents want the slope lowered, which would lower capacity. Chairman
French asked if he was willing to look at moving the trench and flattening the
slopes. Mr. Bonvie said yes. Chairman French asked if it turns out the slopes can
be flattened, could he do it? Ivh•. Bonvie said yes.
Ivh•. Monaco was concerned the situation would drag out longer than it already has.
Planner Flynn reminded the audience Mr. Bonvie is not obligated to do anything
and was trying to help the abutters.
2. Correspondence Continued
14. Minutes July 12, 1995
Motion: To approve the minutes as written
(Flynn- Bonda) Five in favor. One abstention. PASSES
15. Minutes July 19,1 995
Motion: To approve the minutes as written
(Dolan - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
16. Letter from Maystar RE: Branch Street residential compound
17. Memo from Ivhr. Burke RE: Weaver Lane
5. Master Plan Discussion
Chairman French told the board he had gone to the Board of Selectmen's meeting
to explain the make up of the Master Plan Committee and Master Plan Advisory
Committee and thought he was received favorably. Selectmen Pasquale had asked
if a limit on the number of members would be set for the citizens' advisory
committee. Chairman French told him they would have to meet and see who
- -- attended. The selectmen asked the board to wait until the end of August before - --
asking for a Board of Selectmen representative.
Chairman French asked what the board wanted to do until the rest of the Master
Plan Committee is formed. The board discussed advertising for the citizens at large
until September 20, interviewing on September 27, and waiting on the content
until the whole committee is seated.
Motion: To advertise August 18, 1995 through September 15, 1995 in the
Mansfield News and on cable with an application deadline of September
20, 1995 and do interviews September 27, 1995.
(McShane- Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
6. Around the Table
Planner Flynn said the board should consider the detention area problems at
Massapoag during the next subdivision that comes up. Planner Trombetta asked if
underground systems are feasible. Planner Flynn said Mansfield has primarily high
ground water, and suggested in a similar situation perhaps the land wouldn't be
developable. Planner McShane said under the Wetlands Protection Act, covered
culverts were not allowed because of access problems.
Planner McShane said the board should get in touch with the Franklin Town
Manager on impact fees.
_( Motion: To find out if the Board of Selectmen have responded to Wolfgang
Bauer's invitation to get together with several towns to discuss impact
fees. If they have not, call him and let him know the Planning Board is
interested. Get in touch with the Local Affairs Committee to let them
know Mansfield is interested in any future meetings on impact fees.
(McShane - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Chairman French said when he visited the Board of Selectmen, the Branch Street
residential compound was brought up. Selectmen Pasquale asked if the fees should
be reexamined. Planner McShane said maybe they should be, if the residential
compound works out to be so much more than a traditional subdivision.
Planner Flynn said the residential compound was supposed to be a better alternative
for everyone than the traditional subdivision. Planner McShane said if that is the
case, shouldn't the fee structure for the residential compound be less? Planner
Flynn said she assumed it was, but a plan hasn't had that much extra open space
the developer of the Branch Street site would be charged for.
7. Adjournment
Motion: To adjourn at 10:05 P.M.
(Dolan - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Date of next meeting: August 23, 1995 at 7:00 P.M.
Signature of Cle •k Dat of A )proval