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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
MARCH 1, 1995
PRESENT: Chairman McClanahan, Acting Clerk french
PLANNERS: Bonda, Dolan
Shaun P. Burke, Director of Planning and Development
1. Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M.
2. Public Hearing - Planning Board Zoning By -Law Amendments
Motion: To appoint Planner French Acting Clerk
(Bonda - Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
The clerk read the legal advertisement.
* Lot Width - Section 1.5.17a
Mr. Burke explained that as a result of the lot size increase
at last year's town meeting, there is a conflict in the R2
zone between lot size and the current lot width definition.
Additionally, engineers have said it is difficult to work with
the current lot width definition, especially along a cul -de-
sac. The proposed lot width definition would take the width
measurement at the front setback location.
Public Comment
Karl Clemmey, 390 West Street asked if this wouldn't create
Pork chop lots. Mr. Burke showed Mr. Clemmey a diagram of how
it would work and not create pork chop lots. Mr. Burke
suggested another way to eliminate the conflict would be to
increase the minimum lot size in the R2 zone to 22,500 feet.
Mr. Clemmey suggested that would open up more lots that would
currently need variances to be buildable.
Motion: To table a final decision until there is a full board
(Bonda - Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
Wetland /Waterbody Setback
Mr. Burke explained this is basically the same proposal that
was withdrawn at last year's town meeting, which was drafted
by Attorney Mark Bobrowski as a result of the Great Woods Land
Use Study. Attorney Bobrowski was concerned the existing by-
law is ambiguous, so he suggested breaking it into two
separate sections, one dealing with soil types and the other
with rivers, streams and lakes.
Mr. Burke noted the lot sizes in the proposal were based on
lot sizes before the Spring 1994 Town Meeting and would have
to be amended to reflect the current requirements.
Public Comment
Karl Clemmey said the board should table this issue until
there is a full board. He asked why paragraph c was removed
from 4.8.3. Mr. Burke explained it had been moved into 4.8A
2. Mr. Clemmey asked why the business and industrial
districts were not included in the lot size list. Mr. Burke
those districts were covered later in the by -law. Mr. Clemmey
askrd k:110 crould be enforcing the by -law. Mr. Burke told him
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it would be under the Conservation Commission's jurisdiction.
Motion: To close the public hearing
(French - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
3. Correspondence
1. Memo from William Williams RE: February 18, 1995
Planning Seminar
2. Memo from Officer Lance Lawson RE: Eastfield
Village traffic count
3. Memo from Officer Lawson RE: Classic Court
4. Memo from Planning Board to Amos Robinson RE: time
on Board of Selectmen's agenda
5. Memo from Planning Board to Selectmen and IDC RE:
February 18, 1995 Planning Seminar
6. Memo from Mr. Burke to Paul Folkman RE:
Sturbridge Drive stop sign
Public Hearing - Citizens' Petition to Regulate Acceptable
Hours and Decibel Level -Karl Clemmey
The clerk read the legal advertisement.
Board Comment
Planner Bonda suggested where a residential area is
referenced, it should read "residential zone." Mr. Clemmey
explained he worded it like that on purpose, but if the board
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anted it changed, he was willing.
Planner Dolan was concerned the decibel level limit may be too
stringent, saying he wouldn't want the police department going
after people because their televisions were too loud. He
asked what Mr. Clemmey would do about trains, fire engines and
police cars. Planner Dolan stressed the town should be
careful about people's rights when adopting regulations like
this. He also noted there were no durations on the proposal.
Jim Bilodeau, 15 Lancashire Drive said he supported the
petition because with increased growth, noise and congestion
also go up.
Ed Rosenberg, 796 Ware Street and former Board of Health
member, said he had spent time at the Great Woods Center for
the Performing Arts working on noise and found decibel level
by itself is not the only factor in controlling noise. Other
factors, such as weather and speaker types, are important.
Peter DeTrolio agreed, but said if the decibel level is high
to begin with, it makes the noise worse.
Acting Clerk French asked Mr. Rosenberg if he had any
suggestions as to how to control noise. Mr. Rosenberg
explained the Board of Health had worked on a proposal similar
to this and realized controlling the decibel level alone would
not solve the problem. He said this would not be enforceable
.and :asked if the police nr building inspector would walk
around town with a decibel meter, and if they did, how would
they be trained?
Mr. DeTrolio said Great Woods does its own measurements every
night, and if the ceiling were set at 85 decibels, that would
solve much of the problem. He said the proposal could help,
though perhaps worded differently.
Planner Dolan was concerned with taking police away from other
duties to monitor the noise from homes. Acting Clerk French
stressed the article wouldn't cover just Great Woods, but all
of Mansfield. Mr. DeTrolio responded that no one complains
about anything but Great Woods, and Planner Dolan said he
thought more complaints would come with the article.
Acting Clerk French asked what the current allowed decibel
level is at Great Woods. Mr. Rosenberg said he thought it was
105 decibels, which he said Great Woods worked out with
artists and is based on other places around the country.
Mr. Bilodeau agreed with Mr. DeTrolio that if the sound is
limited to 85 decibels- at its source, it wouldn't get much
above that anywhere else.
Sandra Levine, 20 Walnut Street pointed out that in the
proposal, sound couldn't exceed 85 decibels for more than 20
minutes. She said it takes most people longer than that to
dow their lawns, which may be annoying to neighbors, but asked
if the town wanted to regulate what people do in their own
yards in an effort to improve the neighborhood.
Louis Amoruso, 6 Brookside Road, asked if the article was
intended just for Great Woods. He was concerned about
creating an article that would effect the whole town as a way
to get at one place. He added it was bad legislation to have
a law based on who complains the loudest.
Terry Shaw, 34 Maple Street, said she lives next to an
industrial zone and the company next to her is loud 24 -hours a
day and came to see how this proposal would effect her.
Stuart Golding, 19 Lancashire Drive said he supports the
article and didn't think it was directed at Great Woods, but
was intended to make the town a better place to live.
Motion: To close the public hearing
(French- Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
5. Public Hearing - Citizens' Petition on Open Space in
Industrial Zones - Karl Clemmey
The clerk read the legal ad. The article would amend Section
4.2.2 Density and Dimensional Regulations - Business and
Industrial Districts from 35% required open space to 15 %.
Mr. Clemmey explained he has brought this to the Planning
Board before. He said if a parcel is over 10 acres, the
minimum open space requirement should be decreased. He
suggested a schedule to drop the requirement some for every
acre over 10.
Mr. Burke said the 35% is based on review of the industrial
park along with residential areas. He explained the required
landscaping and buffering could be counted toward the 35% open
space. He added he found it hard to say a larger parcel with
more uses should require less open space, using the Emerald
Square Mall in North Attleboro as a project that would have
benefited from more open space.
Board Comments
Planner Bonda said after the February 18 planning seminar,
people seem to want to preserve open space and she would not
support this article. Acting Clerk French and Planner Dolan
agreed, saying this is not the direction in which the board
wants to go.
Public Comment
Richard Gordon, 407 West Street and member of the Master Plan
4dvisory Committee, said the Master Plan Committee worked hard
on coming up with 35% and didn't think Mansfield wants
stripped -land development.
Motion: To close the public hearing
(Ronda- French) All in favor. PASSES
3. Correspondence Continued
7. Minutes February 22, 1995
8. Letter from William Williams to Attorney Mangiaratti RE:
Karl Clemmey - Back Bay Brook, Branch Street
9. Memo from Mr. Williams RE: Annual Town Meeting
10. Memo from Mr. Burke to Mr. Williams RE: Accounts
11. Memo from Engineering Department RE: Carlton Estates
sight distance. The developers had said the sight
distance would be 255 feet, but the Town Engineer got 230
feet. There is a 36 inch oak tree on private property in
the way. Mr. Burke explained the minimum sight distance
at the time the plan was approved was 200 feet. Acting
Clerk French was distressed the developers had not
provided what they represented they would.
Motion: To send the developers a letter explaining what
the Town Engineer found, in the board's view, this
is significantly less than the sight distance
proposed on the plan; request they advise the
board how they intend to rectify the situation.
(French - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
13. Letter from Attorney Mark Bobrowski RE: Old Maple Street
14. Letter from Mass Highwav RE: Norton retail. development
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6. Around the Table
Planner Benda told the board she had spoken with Mr. Williams
about the Planning Office move and he agreed to come speak
with the board, but requested it be early in the evening. The
board discussed meeting at 7:00 P.M. on March 8, 1995.
Planner Benda was concerned about the traffic count for
Eastfield Village and some of the other items that seem to
fall on the borderline of subdivision regulations, like road
length.
Acting Clerk French said he would like to add impact fees to
the list of items to discuss with Representative Hyland at the
March 8, 1995 meeting.
7. Public Comment
Karl Clemmey said he was disappointed the board decided to
keep $2,000 of his Woodlot Estates filing fee, since he has
paid $80,000 in taxes on the property. He said he didn't
think more than 5 or 6 hours was spent in review of the plan.
8. Adjournment
Motion: To adjourn at 10:15 P.M.
(French - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Date of next meeting: March 8, 1995 at 7:00 P.M.
Signature of Clerk Date of Approval