HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Brd Min_1181995PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES
JANUARY 18, 1995
PRESENT: Chairman McClanahan, Acting Clerk French U
PLANNERS: Bonda, Flynn, Trombetta I(S
1. Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M.
Motion: To appoint Planner French Acting Clerk
( Bonda- Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
2. Public Hearing - Woodland Park
The clerk read the legal advertisement.
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, representing Rewlew Trust,
presented the plan for a 45 -lot subdivision off Fruit Street.
He explained the streets had been laid out on a 1911 plan, and
some had been built. A similar subdivision plan had been
filed and approved in 1974, but was never built. At that
time, part of the brook was moved. The plan was resubmitted -
in the spring of 1994 as a preliminary and revised after
discussion with the Planning Board.
Mr. Maloon explained the property sheds water in three
directions and said most of the water draining toward Fruit
Street will go through the street drainage and into detention
basins. He added the size of the detention basins had been
reduced from the preliminary plan and that he would be
reducing surface and ground water flow toward South Main
Street. Mr. Maloon explained the detention area at the rear
of the site has an outlet to the brook, but is really desinged
to store water on site. The applicant is planning to bring
sewer into the front half of the subdivision and proposes the
use of grinder pumps on some lots.
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Mr. Maloon said he would be requesting waivers for the use of
ADS pipe instead of reinforced concrete and for the detention
area, because it is too close to the property line and is not
curvelinear. Because of the size of the basin, he said he
would rather have it in one area than curve around to stay 100
feet from the property line. He added the brook is between
the detention basin and the nearest abuttor, so extra water
would flow into the brook, not onto abutting property.
Department Head Comment
Memoranda were read into the record from the Water, Fire,
Conservation, Police and Planning Departments.
Public Comment
Jeffery Sienna, 364 South Main
high groundwater and said 45
increase the problem.
Street was concerned with the
additional houses will only
Debbie Snyder, 29 Fruit Street said the neighborhood and
t environment are different than when the plan was approved in
1974, and safety issues are a bigger concern because of the
number of homes in the neighborhood now. She said additional
houses would increase the safetv hazards.
Kathleen Nash, 235 South >Iain Street asked if the land around
the Textron Building on South Main Street could be
contaminated. Chairman McClanahan told her he would check
with the Board of Health.
Paul McCarthy, 173 South Main Street asked if the developers
of Woodland and Woodlot Estates could do a joint traffic
study.
Robert Webber, 20 Smiley Avenue said he and several neighbors
were not listed as abuttors. Mr. Maloon said he would check
with the assessor's office.
Linda Anteski, 18 Beech Street, said the traffic study should
consider the traffic from Great Woods, the number of children
in the neighborhood and the poor condition of the roads.
Norm Parks, 396 South Main Street suggested the developer
consider a land drain for the abuttors because after tree
removal, the water they had used will flow off.
Stuart Mason, 24 Beech Street said when the Back Bay Brook was
moved in 1976, it drove the water underground. He said when
perk tests were done in the fall, the holes were dry and full
of water two weeks later.
Steve Quinn, 24 Morrow Street suggested the board consider the
waivers being requested carefully and consider restrictions on
construction schedules
Madeline Collins, 348 South Main Street said she was concerned
Edgewood Street remain a dead end.
Dave O'Connor, Chestnut Street asked about the utility
easements and Edgewood Street remaining a dead end.
Board Comment
Planner Bonda was concerned about the quality of the
Environmental Impact Report and its use of 92 -93 school
figures. She will insist on a detailed traffic study with
updated numbers and said the FIR is not sufficient.
Planner Flynn said the hearing was for both the residents and
the developer, not one or the other. She asked if the
developer had considered open space; Mr. Maloon said he had
not spoken with his client. Planner Flynn asked if it was
possible to move the detention basin to beyond 100 feet of the
property line; Mr. Maloon said yes. Planner Flynn asked why
Mr. Maloon had shown three detention area designs. He
responded that the one shown closer to the property line is
interrupted by the brook before the line and extra ground
water will go into the brook. Planner Flynn asked who would
own the detention areas. Mr. Maloon said it would be placed
on one of the lots and the homeowner would own it. Planner
Flynn mentioned getting together with the Woodlot Estates
developer to do a joint traffic study.
Chairman McClanahan asked about sight distance and a detail on
the 100 -year flood elevation and its potential impact on
abuttors. Mr. Maloon said it would decrease stormwater in
South Main Street due to the construction of Smiley Avenue.
Chairman McClanahan asked if t
a waiver on the road radius,
proposing to extend Highland
inquired about the sewer plan .
come into Edgewood to lay the
be crossing South Main Street.
he developer would be requesting
Mr. Maloon said he was not
Avenue. Chairman McClanahan
Mr. Maloon explained he would
sewer line flatter and would not
Chairman McClanahan asked about test pits. Mr. Maloon
explained Mr. Burke had witnessed test holes and he would get
the water table numbers from Health Agent Scott Leite.
Chairman McClanahan asked about providing sewer stubs for the
abuttors. Mr. Maloon said that was the area he proposed
grinder pumps, but added if the abuttors wanted to get pumps
they would be able to hook up to the sewer.
Planner Flynn asked if grinder pumps were being proposed
because of the low elevation in the area. Mr. Maloon said
yes. She said in a subdivision on Mill Street, Mr. Burke had
suggested a force main instead of grinder pumps and asked if
it would be possible to do a land drain behind the homes on
South Main Street. Mr. Maloon said he did not think it would
work in the area and did not think it was required, but would
talk with Mr. Burke and the Engineering Department.
3. Public Hearing - Woodlot Estates
Motion: To open and continue the public hearing until the
conclusion of the Woodland Park discussion. (French -
Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
2. Public Hearing - Woodland Park Continued
Planner Flynn was concerned about getting a more extensive
traffic study. Chairman McClanahan suggested the developer
contact the Woodlot Estates developer to do a traffic study.
Elsie River, 20 Smiley Avenue said Smiley was not an improved
street and had never really been paved.
Motion: To continue the public hearing until February 22, 1995
at 7:30 P.M.
( Bonda- Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
3. Public Hearing - Woodlot Estates Continued
The clerk read the public hearing notice.
Ken McKenzie, Dunn- McKenzie Engineering, represented the
applicant, Karl Clemmev. He said the land is mostly wooded
and was wet during the early 1900s, but the brook was dug out
and the site dried up. Mr. McKenzie said Conservation Agent
Dick Lewis and a botanist had verified no wetlands except
along the bank of the brook.
He explained Cobb Street is paved 375 feet in, with water,
phone and electric service 325 feet in. The sewer comes from
the main interceptor to South Main Street. There will be four
retention areas with three feet of cover on the pipes and 20
foot easements with swales to prevent drainage problems and
help drainage problems on abutting properties.
Mr. McKenzie said there would be a 50 foot opening to land of
Connor for possible future connection, and he could get an
easement to connect the water to the proposed Woodland Park
subdivision. There will be a retention pond for drainage, and
soil tests and adjustments had been done.
On proposed Kat Drive, there will be a 4x8 box culvert, which
Mr. McKenzie said would be able to handle the flow of water.
Proposed Allison Drive will drain to a small retention basin,
and the back of the site will drain onto the railroad bed.
The roads will be higher than the lots, and detention basins
will be one inch above the water table. Mr. McKenzie will
request a waiver on the pipe covers. He added the engineer
had left out catch basins and drainage at the bottom of the
plan and said he would correct it.
Department Head Comments
Memoranda were read from the Engineering, Water, Board of
Health, Fire, Conservation, Police and Planning Departments.
4. Public Hearing - Christopher and Elizabeth Matoian (Webb Auto)
Special Permit
Motion: To open and continue the public hearing until after
the conclusion of the Woodlot Estates discussion.
(Flynn - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
3. Public Hearing - Woodlot Estates Continued
Public Comment
Robert Chavaree, 31 Messenger Street, Plainville, said he owns
a piece of land shown on the subdivision plan.
Dianne Oldmixon, 20 Chestnut Street said it seemed as though
the two developments were really one large one and the
developers were trying to put something over on the residents.
Chairman McClanahan told her the plans had been submitted by
two different developers.
Gilbert Stuart, 186 South Main Street said the water level in
test hole 2 was 35 inches, which is nine inches below his
cellar. He said if the retention basin is be one inch below
the brook, there will be water problems because ground water,
not surface water, is the issue.
A resident of Branch Street said the Back Bay Brook goes
through her property and was afraid if the drainage is not
adequate, the brook will back up into her yard.
Otto Bingle, 126 South Main Street asked what would happen to
the drainage when the water in the brook rises and was
concerned about who would be responsible for the swales and
easements. He said some of the lots were less than required
size when the wetlands were taken out.
Kevin McCarthy, 132 South Main Street, said traffic on Cobb
Street as it exists is hazardous.
Jim Reardon, 120 South Main Street suggested any improvements
to Cobb Street should include widening the street and adding
sidewalks. He said there is only one access shown on the
plan, but thought two were required with more than 300 vehicle
trips per day. He added a more thorough traffic study should
be done because the traffic is much greater than shown.
Florence Poholok, 28 Angelina Lane was concerned about the
capacity of the Back Bay Brook, saying the easement drains in
Angelina Lane overflow now and the brook isn't the answer to
the potential problems with this and the previous subdivision.
Don MacDonald, 170 South Main Street asked if consideration
could be given to sidewalks from Cobb Street to Fruit Street
because of the number of children in the neighborhood and the
increased danger of more traffic. He asked if an outside
consultant should review the drainage issues. Chairman
McClanahan told him the Engineering Department does that.
Alice Walsh, 140 South Main Street said during storms, Cobb
Street narrows to one car width and there is no place to put
snow, and asked how Cobb Street would be widened. She was
also concerned about the ability of emergency vehicles to get
into the area with a single access to the subdivision.
Board Comments
Acting Clerk French asked if the bottom of the detention
basins were above the 100 -year flood. Mr. McKenzie said they
were designed for the 25 -year event and should be sufficient.
He added the easements would be deeded to the homeowners.
Acting Clerk French asked what would happen to the runoff from
roofs and driveways. Mr. McKenzie responded that water goes
into the ground now and will after the homes are built.
Acting Clerk French asked him to figure out how much runoff
there will be from the houses and requested he check whether
the culvert will handle the flow.
Planner
Bonda asked
about
the ownership
questions.
Mr.
Clemmey
said he was
working
with the other
owners. She
asked
if Cobb
Street was a
public
or private way
and was told
it is
public to the end of the pavement. Planner Bonda asked if the
developer would consider a second means of egress out of the
subdivision. Mr. Clemmey said he had been negotiating with
Mr. Connor and would try to work something out.
Planner Flynn said she was concerned there be a second
entrance and remembered the board had discussed going out to
Branch Street with Mr. Clemmey. She said she would like to
discuss with Mr. Burke hiring an outside consultant at Mr.
Clemmey's expense to address the drainage issues.
Planner Flynn was also concerned about open space lots and the
several retention areas, some of which seemed too close to the
property lines. She asked who would pay for land takings if
Cobb Street were widened. Mr. McKenzie said he did not think
that would be necessary because of the land in the right of
way. Planner Flynn asked if the developer would commit to
abandoning the paper roads. Mr. McKenzie said there were
other land owners who would all have to agree.
Planner Flynn said if there are other owners of the property
and they did not sign the application for subdivision, perhaps
the application was not submitted properly.
Motion: To continue the public hearing to February 22, 1995 at
8:30 P.M.
( Bonda- Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
4. Public Hearing - Christopher and Elizabeth Matoian (Webb Auto)
Special Permit
The clerk read the legal advertisement.
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, represented the applicant for a
special permit to use a residential apartment on the second
floor of the existing building at 1 Mansfield Avenue.
Mr. Matoian explained the apartment is existing but has never
been used. He hopes to use the first floor as an office and
said there is adequate parking. The site is on sewer from
Crocker Street.
Department Head Comments
The clerk read a memorandum from Mr. Burke.
Board Comments
Planner Flynn said it seemed to be a legitimate use for the
area and asked if the applicant did use the first floor as an
office, would he need to present another plan? Chairman
McClanahan said he would not.
Planners Bonda, French and Trombetta all agreed the use was
acceptable. Motion: To close the public hearing
(French - Flvnn) All in favor. PASSES
Motion: To approve the special permit with the draft as read
(French-Flynn)
Flynn - Yes - The application is within the rules and
regulations of the Zoning By -Law
Bonda - Yes - For the above reason
French - -Yes - For the above reason
Trombetta - Yes - For the above reason
McClanahan - Yes - For the above reason
All in favor. PASSES
Correspondence
1. Memo from Dan Clifford RE:
partial release of bond for Maple Hill Estates
Motion: To release $2,750
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16.
Planner Flynn requested copies of the above memo.
Motion: To discuss Mr. Swanson's proposal at the next
meeting
(Flynn - French) All in favor. PASSES
Memo from William Williams RE: IDC meeting
Memo from William Williams to Shaun Burke RE:
Mansfield Planning Workshop
Memo from Shaun Burke to William Williams RE: survey
Memo from William Williams to Shaun Burke RE: survey
Letter from Folkman & Zola Bldrs to Weaver Lane residents
Memo from William Williams RE: FinCom meetings
Memo from William Williams to John Larch RE: meetings
Memo from Emil Giordano
Minutes January 4, 1995
Motion: To approve the
(Flynn - Bonda)
Under the discussion
requested "which would
passable at all times,
RE: MBC rep
minutes as amended
of Jameson Farm, Planner Flynn
leave at least one half of the road
which he said could be included on
the plan" be added to the second paragraph.
Four in favor. One abstention. PASSES
17. Request for release of remaining funds on Erick Road
Motion: To release Planning Board interest and return all
remaining funds in the Erick Road account
(French- Ronda) Four in favor. One abstention.
(Flynn - Trombetta) Four in favor. One abstention.
PASSES
2.
Memo
from Bertram Cook RE: surplus material
removal
1399 East Street
Motion:
To send the Building Inspector a favorable
recommendation for the removal of 150 cubic yards
of excess material at 1399 East Street (Flynn -
Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Chairman
McClanahan excused himself from the meeting.
3.
Form
J Release from Covenant form Cedar Ridge
4.
Memo
from Joan Cutillo RE: surety posted Cedar Ridge
Motion:
To table the Form J until the 1/25/95 meeting
(Bonda- Flynn) All in favor. PASSES
Chairman
McClanahan returned to the meeting at this point.
5.
Memo
to Shaun Burke from William Williams Re: parking
lease
cost survey
¢.
Memo
from William Williams RE: zoning article
7.
Memo
from Bob Swanson RE: zoning article
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16.
Planner Flynn requested copies of the above memo.
Motion: To discuss Mr. Swanson's proposal at the next
meeting
(Flynn - French) All in favor. PASSES
Memo from William Williams RE: IDC meeting
Memo from William Williams to Shaun Burke RE:
Mansfield Planning Workshop
Memo from Shaun Burke to William Williams RE: survey
Memo from William Williams to Shaun Burke RE: survey
Letter from Folkman & Zola Bldrs to Weaver Lane residents
Memo from William Williams RE: FinCom meetings
Memo from William Williams to John Larch RE: meetings
Memo from Emil Giordano
Minutes January 4, 1995
Motion: To approve the
(Flynn - Bonda)
Under the discussion
requested "which would
passable at all times,
RE: MBC rep
minutes as amended
of Jameson Farm, Planner Flynn
leave at least one half of the road
which he said could be included on
the plan" be added to the second paragraph.
Four in favor. One abstention. PASSES
17. Request for release of remaining funds on Erick Road
Motion: To release Planning Board interest and return all
remaining funds in the Erick Road account
(French- Ronda) Four in favor. One abstention.
PASSES
18. Draft letters regarding Harrington and Matto
(Pheasant Hollow)
Motion: To send correspondence to the developer, bank,
town counsel, town clerk, town treasurer informing
them the developer is in default as of January 18,
1995 for failure to complete the required
improvements within the time frame given.
(Flynn - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
6. Public Comment
Peter DeTrolio told the board he had met with Representative
Barbara Hyland to discuss the day care center issue. She
suggested that while she look into the issue, the Planning
Board contact other boards in the area and inform them of the
situation. Planner Flynn suggested the board discuss the issue
when Mr. Burke returns.
7. Around the Table
Planner Flynn said the information sent the board for the
Growth Management Seminar was from 1978 and requested updated
information. Motion: To inform the sponsors of the seminar
the Planning Board would like updated material, if available.
(Flynn - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Acting Clerk French suggested tentatively scheduling a site
walk for Saturday, January 28, 1995.
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8. Adjournment
Motion: To adjourn at 11:30 P.M.
(Flynn - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES
Date of next meeting: Wednesday, January 25, 1995 at 7:30 P.M.
01/1
Date of Approval