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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES °`' `r4
JUNE 8, 1994
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PRESENT: Chairman Madan, Clerk Sullivan
PLANNERS: Annino Bonda, Flynn, French �
Shaun P. Burke, Director of Planning and DevelopmL�! T'
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1. Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M.
2. Discussion with Engineering Department
Regarding the Otis Street /School Street /Whitetail Lane
intersection, Town Engineer Bob Swanson presented his plan for
improvements. After discussion with the board, he offered to
return with revisions.
Regarding the request of Jack Smith to use polyethylene
plastic pipe in the Hodges Brook Estates drainage, Mr.
Swanson said it had been used in town and the state highway
department accepts it as an alternative to concrete pipe. He
said the pipe is lighter and therefore easier and safer to
handle than concrete, is more water tight, lasts longer and is
of the same strength. However, he said it would require more
work to install. He suggested asking for an extended warranty
on the pipe. A representative of the pipe company said the
product comes with a 25 -year warranty.
The board requested an opinion on the pipe from Subdivision
Inspector Dan Clifford.
Motion: To allow the use of polyethvlene pipe in this instance
with proper embedding per the manufacturer's
instructions and with the use of a water tight joint.
If gravel is used to install the pipe, a sieve
analysis will be done. (Sullivan - Flvnn) All in
favor. PASSES.
3. Public Hearing Continued - Cobbler's Corner Definitive
Subdivision
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, presented the plan for a 19 -lot
subdivision off of Willow Street. He presented revisions to
the plan and responded to a letter from abuttor Carole Andrews
regarding concerns about drainage.
The applicant, Allen Willis, said he thought the town had an
easement on the opposite side of the road, and that he would
be willing to do a sight easement. Clerk Sullivan said the
easement should be shown on the plan.
The applicant requested a waiver on the detention area, which
is less than 100 feet from the property line, but said its
location is the best and flattest on the site.
Board Discussion
Planner Bonda had no comments.
Planner Flynn said she was concerned about the easement along
the back of Lots 11 and 12, and said there should be a better
buffer along the back of the lots abutting Route 140.
Clerk Sullivan asked if Mass. General Law required a letter
from the Board of Health on the septic system. Mr. Burke told
him that board has 45 days to comment. Without comment, the
plan is deemed approved as submitted.
Clerk Sullivan requested the wetland line be reestablished.
Planner French asked how much drainage from off site flows
onto the site. Mr. Maloon said the site takes state drainage.
Planner French said he was concerned about how much water
would be put into the stream. Mr. Maloon told him he would
calculate that volume.
Chairman Madan asked if the test holes had been witnessed by
any town officials. Mr. Maloon said they had not. The
chairman then asked if Health Agent Scott Leite had provided
an adjustment figure for the detention basin. Mr. Maloon said
Mr. Leite had done an adjustment of 16 inches for the holes in
the road, but not for the detention area.
Planner Annino asked why the waiver for the detention basin
should be granted. Mr. Maloon responded that by using the
proposed area, the natural trees would be left in place and
the soils would not be disturbed. He said the sluiceway is a
buffer to any impact the storage may have on other areas of
the site.
Mr. Burke said he was concerned about the Police Department's
request for a sidewalk in front of the site, when the rest of
Willow Street does not have sidewalks. He said it was better
to have an attractive detention area like the one proposed
than just a hole in the ground surrounded by a fence. He said
wetlands already exist on abutting properties and the visual
impact of the proposed detention area would be minimal.
Planner Flynn asked about open space lots. Mr. Maloon said
they would consider it. She suggested setting aside some of
the land as a conservation easement. Mr. Willis said the
conservation land currently there is used for parties and
dumping trash and he thought parcels in private ownership
would be better controlled. Gerrin Bresnick, Mr. Willis'
attorney, suggested a conservation restriction on the property
owners' deeds.
Motion: To continue the public hearing to Wednesday, June 22,
1994 at 9:00 P.M.
(Annino- Sullivan) All in favor. PASSES.
4. Preliminary Plan Review - Homefield Farms
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, presented the plans for a three
lot subdivision off of Elyse Road.
The clerk read the department head comments.
Board Comments
Planner Annino said he was concerned about a cul -de -sac off
another cul -de -sac and about the 28 foot drop in grade on the
street. He requested water pressure be addressed in an
Environmental Impact Statement.
Planner French had no comments.
Clerk Sullivan asked what sort of vegetation the area
contained. The applicant, Mr. MacDonald, said mostly large
oaks and pines. Clerk Sullivan asked why the cul -de -sac was
placed where it was; Mr. Maloon said that was because of the
lot shapes. Clerk Sullivan said he was opposed to a cul -de-
sac off another cul -de -sac.
Mr. Burke suggested hooking the cul -de -sac into the existing
cul -de -sac in order to avoid two roads leading nowhere. Mr.
Maloon said he would look into it.
Chairman Madan asked if any of the land on the plan had been
1 included in the original submission of the Homefield Farms
subdivision plan. Mr. Maloon said a small piece had been.
The chairman asked if that meant the new submission would have
to come under new zoning. Mr. Burke said if the plan were a
Form A, it would, but that a subdivision is different.
Planner Bonda said she was concerned about water pressure and
about the public safety issues of creating another cul -de -sac.
Motion: To deny the based on department head and board
comments, especially the board's concerns about a
cul -de -sac off another cul -de -sac, street offset,
water pressure, the grade difference.
( Annino- Flynn)
Chairman Madan suggested the applicant look into
hooking into the abutting subdivision and doing one
residential compound.
All in favor. PASSES.
5. Preliminary Plan Review - Eastwind Estates
The clerk read the department head comments.
Ken McKenzie, Dunn - McKenzie Engineering, presented the plan,
which includes a wetlands crossing. He said the Conservation
Commission- wanted the roadway to be as narrow as possible to
minimize 'the impact on the wetlands. He proposed a retaining
wall 6 -10 feet high.
Mr. Burke suggested a residential compound, with a driveway
rather than a road, where a different grade could be used.
Planner Annino requested the applicant carefully address
grading, elevation, the retaining wall, guard rails, and the
impact on surrounding homes.
Mr. McKenzie suggested reducing the width of the road within
the right -of -way on he side with no sidewalk.
Planner Sullivan suggested a 50 foot leveling area.
Motion: To approve the plan with all department head and board
comments, especially concerning slopes, retaining
wall, rip rap and the wetlands crossing. The board
encourages the applicant to explore the possibility of
a residential compound.
(Annino - Sullivan) All in favor. PASSES.
6. Preliminary Plan Review - Hodges Brook Estates II
The clerk read the department head comments.
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, presented the plan. He said it
would not be possible to sewer the site by gravity, and the
applicant would be using grinder pumps.
Clerk Sullivan asked if the detention area would spill into
the existing wetlands. Mr. Maloon said yes, and they would be
using typical detention areas.
Planner Annino asked if there would be room on the lots for
houses. Mr. Maloon responded yes, and that he would be doing
a precise wetlands line. He said depending on whether the
line changes, the applicant may lose one lot.
Mr. Burke suggested a residential compound.
Planner French said he didn't think a second entrance onto
West Street was a good idea. He thought the proposed road was
too small.
Motion: To approve the plan with all department head and board
comments.
(Flynn - French) Five in favor. One abstention.
PASSES.
7. Discussion of Summer Schedule
Motion: To approve the draft summer schedule.
(Sullivan - Annino) All in favor. PASSES.
Motion: To request a joint meeting with the Board of Selectmen
to.discuss the Planning Board's role in development.
(Annino- Bonda) All in favor. PASSES.
8. Discussion of Work List Items
The board decided to schedule a workshop for Wednesday, July
13, 1994 at 7:30 P.M.
9. Correspondence
1. Letter from William F. Williams, Town Manger and the
Industrial Development Commission RE: Business Forum
2. Letter from Dr. and Mrs. Sohn RE: development
3. Letter from Ralph Maloon to Paul Folkman RE: Weaver Lane
4. Letter from Paul Folkman RE: credentials of soil scientist
5. Memo from Bill Williams to Board of Selectmen RE:
goals and objectives
6. Memo from Maureen Doherty, MBC Secretary RE: MBC meeting
7. Letter from Massapoag Estates resident RE: pumps. Mr.
Burke suggested waiting until the rest of the subdivision
is built before having the developer do pressure tests and
install pumps.
8. ZBA appeal of Stop and Shop Betty Pappas. The board
requested copies of the appeal.
9. ZBA variance application Great Woods sign.
Motion: For a negative recommendation.
(Sullivan - Bonda)
Chairman Madan said Great Woods had been granted a
variance for this a few years ago, but didn't record it.
He said he thought they should get the variance back.
Five in favor. One opposed.
PASSES.
10. ZBA variance application Sherman Strom.
Motion: For a positive recommendation.
(French - Sullivan) Five in favor. One opposed.
PASSES.
11. Minutes June 1, 1994
Motion: To approve the minutes as written.
(Bonda - French) All in favor. PASSES.
10. Form A (ANR) Plans
Stearns Hill Sewer Plans to be signed.
Motion: To sign the plans.
(French - Flynn) All in favor. PASSES.
Bay Brook Farm Form A plans.
Motion: To sign the plans.
(Sullivan - Flynn) All in favor. PASSES.
11. Adjournment
Motion: To adjourn at 11:45 P.M.
(Sullivan - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES.
Date of next meeting: June 22, 1994 at 7:30 P.M.
Si ature of Clerk Date of/ Approval