HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Brd Min_611994PLANNING BOARD MIN
JUNE 1, 1994
PRESENT: Chairman Madan, Clerk Sullivan
PLANNERS: Annino, Bonda, Flynn, French,
Shaun P. Burke, Director of Planning and
1. Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M.
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2. Public Hearing Continued - Carleton Estates
Motion: To appoint Planner McClanahan acting clerk.
(Flynn - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES.
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Michael Trowbridge, Hutchins - Trowbridge Associates, showed the
board how he arrived at a sight distance of 255 feet by using
a sight easement, which he showed on the plan and which will
be shown on the deed.
Motion: To close the public hearing.
(McClanahan - Bonda) All in favor. PASSES.
Motion: To approve the definitive subdivision plan with all of
the requirements listed on the draft decision.
(McClanahan - Flynn) All in favor. PASSES.
Clerk Sullivan arrived at this point.
Preliminary Plan Review - Carole Estates
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, presented the plan for 9 lots
off Bird Road. He said the applicant was considering filing
the definitive plan as a residential compound.
Motion: To approve the plan with all department head and
board comments, especially concerning wetlands,
method of sewerage disposal, and the possibility of
filing as a residential compound to reduce the impact
of the project on wetland areas. (McClanahan- French)
All in favor. PASSES.
Preliminary Plan Review - Top of the Hill Estates
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, presented the plan for 67 lots
off Stearns Avenue. Clerk Sullivan asked if any test holes
had been done. Mr. Maloon said they had not. Planner
McClanahan asked if the applicant was proposing to use a 12
inch water line. Paul Folkman, one of the applicants, said he
would look into that on the definitive plan.
Motion: To deny the plan due to road lengths, potential
water /fire flow problems, the lack of looping
utilities, the lack of information on Lot 56- and the
depth of the sewer.
(Sullivan - Bonda) Four
PASSES.
in favor. Two opposed.
5. Preliminary Plan Review - Four Js Estates
Michael Trowbridge, Hutchins - Trowbridge Associates, presented
the plan for 63 lots off Oak Street.
Leonard Flynn said he was concerned about losing access to
approximately 300 acres of conservation land adjacent to the
project. Mr. Burke suggested if it could not be resolved by
the time the definitive plan is filed, the applicant make the
lots abutting the conservation land common land.
Planner French asked if the applicant would be filling more
than 5,000 feet of wetlands. Mr. Trowbridge said yes, and
that they would be going to MEPA.
Mr. Trowbridge asked the board how it felt about the project
having one point of access rather than two. Mr. Burke
suggested a residential cluster.
Mr. Trowbridge asked if the board would waive one of the
sidewalks in the subdivision if the applicant put a sidewalk
on Oak Street. Chairman Madan said the board would consider
it.
Planner Sullivan asked if any of the site was land court land.
Mr. Trowbridge told him it was not.
Mr. Burke said it would have to be determined whether a
conservation right of way exists on the site. Mr. Trowbridge
said he did not,think providing access would be a problem.
Planner Annino arrived at this point.
Motion: To approve the plan with all department head and
board comments, with express concern given to the
right of way into Great Woods parcels to be
determined before a definitive plan is submitted.
(Flynn - McClanahan)
Planners McClanahan and French suggested the applicant
consider a residential cluster. Planner Flynn said that
should be up to the applicant.
Six in favor. One abstention.
PASSES.
The board arrived at a consensus that it would like the
applicant to consider a residential compound.
6. Preliminary Plan Review - Woodland Park
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, presented the plan, which was
approved in 1976 but never recorded. Mr. Maloon said
everything was the same as the original except the lot shape,
including the probable need for a pumping station. He said he
was working on an alternate route for the sewer where a
pumping station may not be required.
Planner Flynn asked if there was sufficient distance between
intersections. Mr. Maloon said they had put the roads on top
of existing paper streets as much as possible. The applicant
had planned to ask the town to abandon the original paper
streets. Mr. Burke said he was concerned about potential
legal problems of the board endorsing a plan where subdivision
lots cross over existing paper streets,
Clerk Sullivan said he was concerned about the paper streets
being used without first being abandoned and about the
requested corner rounding easement.
Planner Flynn said she would like to see some open space lots.
Motion: To approve the plan with all department head and board
comments, with special consideration given to the
elimination of two short cul -de -sacs and the applicant
making an attempt to tie into existing roads.
(McClanahan - Sullivan)
Planner Annino said he would like to see existing
vegetation and the distance of the site to existing
homes on a definitive plan.
All in favor. PASSES.
7. Preliminary Plan Review - Woodlot Estates
Cynthia McCarthy, Dunn- McKenzie Engineering, presented the
plan. Applicant Karl Clemmey said there were questions on two
deeds, which he would have cleared up and bring to Mr. Burke.
Mr. Clemmey said he was willing to work with the town to fix
the flooding problems in the area and to discuss connecting
his roads with the abutting preliminary subdivision, Woodland
Park. He also said he is willing to make the entrance to his
subdivision on Branch Street instead of South Main Street.
Ms. McCarthy said the project would be sewered but they would
use existing brook crossings, so they would not cross the
wetlands again. She said there would be two retention areas.
Clerk Sullivan suggested using oil /water separators rather
than hoods. He also told her test pits would be needed.
The board was concerned with the length of the proposed road.
Ms. McCarthy said they could reconfigure it to make it less
than 1,200 feet.
Planner French asked about the drainage; Ms. McCarthy said the
lots would drain into the brook.
Planner Annino requested the applicant show detail of the
brook crossings on the definitive plan.
Planners French and Bonda said they would like to see the
roads reconfigured to a maximum of 1,200 feet. Motion: To
approve the plan with all department head and board comments,
with the suggestion the applicant work closely with
the adjacent subdivision applicant to loop the streets
together.
(Annino- McClanahan) All in favor. PASSES.
In a straw vote, the board told the applicant they were in
favor of exploring a residential cluster or compound.
8. Correspondence
1. Letter from Michael Trowbridge, Hutchins - Trowbridge
Associates requesting the board reconsider its votes on
Back Bay Circle and Winslow Estates.
Motion: To reconsider the vote on Back Bay Circle.
(French- Annino) All in favor. PASSES.
Motion: To deny the preliminary plan based on department
head comments. (Annino - McClanahan) Six in favor.
One abstention. PASSES.
The board had voted to reconsider the vote on Winslow
Estates at its May 25, 1994 meeting.
Motion: To deny the preliminary plan based on the
department head comments. The board would like
to see the road moved in order to minimize the
impacts of the drainage swale in the subdivision.
(Annino - McClanahan) All in favor. PASSES.
2.' Memo from Daniel Clifford, Subdivision Inspector RE: Bond
release for Vickery Estates.
Motion: To approve the release of funds.
(Annino- Bonda) Six in favor. One abstention.
PASSES.
3. Form J Bay Brook Farm to be signed.
4. Memo from Engineering Department RE: Whitetail Lane.
Motion: To send the Engineering Department a letter asking
them to come in to explain their plan for the
intersection improvements, as the board still has
some concerns.
(McClanahan - Annino) All in favor. PASSES.
5. Letter from Carole Andrews RE: Cobbler's Corner.
Planner McClanahan left the meeting at this point.
6. Letter from Robert Mangiaratti, Town Counsel RE:
preliminary subdivision plan modification.
7. Letter to Paul Folkman, Folkman Zola Builders, from
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering RE: Weaver Lane drainage.
8. Letter from Ralph Maloon RE: Baybrook Farm Form A
filing fees.
Motion: Not to waive the filing fees.
(Annino - Flynn) All in favor. PASSES.
9. Letter to Steve Smith, SRPEDD from William F.
Williams, Town Manager RE: grants.
10. Minutes May 25, 1994
Motion: To approve the minutes as written.
( Bonda- Annino) Five in favor. One abstention.
11. ZBA petition for appeal by Karl, Carole and
Elizabeth Clemmey of the building permit for Great Woods.
Motion: To send the ZBA no recommendation because of the
board's limited legal knowledge of the case and
case law pertaining to the appeal. The board
thinks it would be more appropriate for Town
Counsel to respond to this. ( Bonda- French) Five
in favor. One opposed. PASSES.
Around the Table
Planner Bonda said she was concerned about surplus removal
activities going on without the proper permits. Motion: To
send the building inspector a letter regarding surplus removal
activities; (French - Annino) All in favor. PASSES.
Planner Flynn said she was discouraged that parts of Norton
had been made a tax incentive area. She was concerned that
Mansfield may have to sacrifice its conservation efforts so
Norton can get tax relief. Chairman Madan suggested the
contacting the Board of Selectmen about starting a suit
against the state on this issue.
Motion: To send the Board of Selectmen a letter of the
Planning Board's support for a suit against the state.
(Flynn- Annino) All in favor. PASSES.
Chairman Madan suggested the board look into making regular
subdivisions special permit projects and residential cluster
projects by right. He suggested coming up with a work list of
changes the board would like to make to Chapter 40A.
10. Adjournment
Motion: To adjourn at 11:00 P.M.
(Sullivan- French) All in favor. PASSES.
Date
of
next meeting:
Wednesday,
June
22,
1994 at 7:30 P.M.
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