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Planning Board Minutes
September 19, 2001
H. Thomas French, Chairman; Bernie Dolan, Clerk; Roger Achille, Thomas McShane,
Kenneth Tonnan
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1. September 5, 2001 Minutes
Motion: To approve as submitted (Dolan- Tonnan) Three in favor. French
abstained. PASSES
2. ZBA decision - 190 Charles Street - Finding for second floor addition. Granted
(positive Recommendation)
3. Meeting Notices: North Attleboro ZBA; Attleboro Planning Board; Easton ZBA
4. Planning magazine
5. Meeting notice -17th Annual Build Boston convention and trade show
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31 Carriage House Lane, Mac Homes, Inc. The sidewalk was installed within the right-
of-way in front of this house. Rather than the homeowner granting the town an easement
for the sidewalk, the Form A will straighten out this issue. The plan conforms to
frontage and area requirements.
Motion: To sign the FormA (Dolan-Tonnan) All in favor. PASSES
Robert Rogers, Tibbetts Engineering, explained this is an existing business at the end of
Oxford Rd, and is currently a combination office and warehouse uses. The applicant
would like to reconfigure the building to add approximately 1,500 square feet of office
space, which will be taken from the current warehouse space. Because an office use
requires more parking spaces than a warehouse use, additional parking is necessary, with
a total of33 new spaces being proposed. For this building size, 63 spaces are required,
they have 68 total. There are two existing catch basins with an 8" pipe to a third. Under
existing conditions, the pipe cannot handle the two-year storm, resulting in ponding.
When analyzing the 100-year storm with the additional parking, they found there would
be water in the parking lot for short period oftime during heavy rains. They will not be
increasing the size of the existing pipe because that would increase the rate of runoff to
Oxford Road. The site has sufficient lighting and existing trees; more will be added to
the IS-foot buffer area.
Mark Estes, MDE Consuhing, explained they will be extending a second floor overhang
area for some of the office area and will be increasing their work force.
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Ron Hayden, NE Controls, explained they need 68 parking spaces for visiting clients,
even though it is more than required by zoning.
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Dr. Tonnan asked whether the increase in parking spaces is being triggered by zoning
requirements or an increased number of employees. Mr. Estes explained it is primarily
due to added employees, although they are not adding 33. He said some employees
currently have to park on Oxford Road, so this will handle them and the new employees.
The clerk read department head comments from Water, Fire, Police, Planning, and
Engineering. Mr. Burke's questions have been answered and he is satisfied. Mr. Field's
comments have also been addressed; however, he noted the parking area is subject to
flooding during storm events.
Mr. McShane said while the applicant would be reducing open space, the site would still
be well within the 35% required. He asked if the applicant had any concerns about the
proximity of the new parking spaces to the access driveway. Mr. Rogers explained the
spaces closest to the driveway would be for employees, who would not be pulling in and
out during the day.
Motion: To send a positive recommendation to Building Inspector providing all the
department head comments have been satisfactorily addressed.
(Torrnan-Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
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The clerk read the public hearing notice.
Ralph Maloon, RIM Engineering, explained a plan showing the existing Marshall
Avenue and the proposed extension to the intersection of Aspen Street with Smiley
Avenue. The roadway to the point of the bubble, along with five previously approved
lots, was approved under Woodland Park I and is paved to base coat. There will be an
increase of four lots by adding the Connor land to the remaining portion of Woodland
Park I, with existing homes on two of the lots. The utilities will be continued from
Woodland Park I, and the sewer main will be extended. The water main will be extended
to connect at Aspen Street.
The clerk read department head comments from Fire, Electric, Engineering, and Water,
along with a response from Mr. Maloon. In response to Mr. Field's comments, Mr.
Maloon explained the existing sewer easement will not be extended; he will file for a
DEP permit to extend the force main; he will get back to mr. Field on the Back Bay
Brook issues; will show the bounds and the new easement on the plan; and because the
new easement is over two lots, will provide bounds around the easement.
The applicant has requested a waiver for sidewalk to be installed on one side of the street
rather than both, along with the use of bitumin us concrete for the sidewalks; and a waiver
for the drainage area to be 75 feet from the property line rather than 100 feet.
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Mr. Maloon explained that what will shed to the basins will be a little less than what was
previously approved, so they will not be putting any additional drainage into the existing
drainage basins.
Board Comment
Mr. McShane asked if the applicant had a Conservation Commission determination; Mr.
Maloon said they did not, but would be filing with that board soon. Mr. McShane asked
whether the proposed loaming and seeding described in the impact study would be
sufficient to protect the Back Bay Brook from erosion. Mr. Maloon explained they
would use stone rip rap around the drainage outlet and a stone emergency overflow
channel. Along the riverbanks would be loamed and seeded, adding the grade going
toward the brook is relatively flat until right next to the brook, then it drops. Mr.
McShane asked about additional traffic; Mr. Maloon said they expected an addition 40
vehicle trips per day from the four new homes, or an increase of about 10%. Mr.
McShane asked if the applicant had considered opening up to Fruit Street rather than
Aspen; Mr. Maloon said they would need Aspen open for traffic purposes, and because
the Connors would like to have an additional lot. He said it was logical to loop Aspen
and Marshall, adding the cul-de-sac is aJready at the 650-foot limit. The new lots will be
sewered. Some of the lots in Woodland Park I were too low to make it to the sewer with
pumps; the new lots will be on grinder pumps to a force main.
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Mr. French asked for more explanation on the sewer. Mr. Maloon explained the existing
Connor house is on gravity, the existing lots on Smiley Avenue are on gravity, and the
houses on Marshall Avenue from Denwood down are all on grinder pumps, except the
corner lots. The grinder pumps discharge to a manhole at Denwood/Marshall, with one
force main line running up the center line of the road. Mr. French asked about the invert
on the outlet pipe to the proposed detention basin. Mr. Maloon said the profile shown on
Sheet 5 shows a flared end section and outlet at 133.0, and an inlet at the brook at 132.73;
the elevation is 132.24 in the brook. Mr. Field has requested additional brook elevations
shown on plan, as well as the stage of the brook at different storm events.
Mr. French noted the EIR appears to have been written for the whole subdivision and
suggested it be written to show these additional lots as separate, to show the impact of the
new lots. Mr. French asked for updates of the 1992 Annual Report numbers referred to in
the EIR. He was concerned that this plan appears to be a modification to the existing
subdivision by deleting the cul-de-sac and changing the lines of approved lots, then
adding new lots by extending the road.
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Public Comment
Kenneth Paiva, 48 Marshall Avenue, was concerned about the safety ofthe many
children in neighborhood. He said he and his neighbors understood when they bought
their homes that it would be a limited access neighborhood and the streets would not be
opened up; the Aspen Street extension will invite high-speed, non-resident traffic. He
added he did not believe the 10% increase accounts for non-resident traffic. He asked if
smal1 grinder pumps would be used, or if they would be street pumps. Mr. Maloon
explained they would be small individual pumps in pump chambers and would have more
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than sufficient power. Mr. Paiva asked if it was acceptable for the drainage to overflow
into the Back Bay Brook; Mr. French said that had been one of Mr. Field's concerns,
which Mr. Maloon will have to address. Mr. Paiva submitted a petition signed by
Woodland Park I residents in opposition to the subdivision.
Tom Connor, 58 Aspen Street, said he understands the traffic and safety concerns, but
said his family lived there many years before Woodland Park I was built, and that
completely changed the neighborhood. He added the new homes would increase the tax
base.
Mr. Paiva asked if the development could be done without eliminating the cul-de-sac;
Mr. Feck said they had looked into it, but decided this was the only way.
Mr. Achille asked if there was anything prohibiting Aspen being opened to Branch Street;
Mr. Maloon said he did not think it would be possible, as it would involve crossing the
brook and finding a way to loop the roads for access.
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Kimberly Paiva, 48 Marshall Avenue, asked who would maintain the detention area in
the drainage easement between Lots 4OO-47a. Mr. Maloon said the developer will
maintain it until the street is accepted, then the town will maintain it. Mrs. Paiva asked if
the existing drainage area on Lot 12A is owned by the homeowners; Mr. Maloon said
they did, but the town has a maintenance easement if it get blocked, but does not mow or
clean drainage areas regularly. Mrs. Paiva asked if the sewer force mains would be
maintained by the town once the street is approved. Mr .Feck explained the town will
maintain the lines, but the pumps and chambers are on private property and the
responsibility of the homeowners.
Jeff Garden, 4 Smiley Ave, asked what side of the new road the sidewalk would be on;
Mr. Maloon said if the waiver is granted, it would continue on the same side it is
currently on.
Rich Ablom, 60 Marshall Ave, asked if the new houses would connect to the Phase I
force main. Mr. Maloon said all the new homes will be tied to that force main, and it is
of adequte size. Mr. Ablom asked about additional stop signs. Mr. Feck said they would
install whatever Officer Lawson requires. Mr. Ablom suggested signs at AspenlMarshall
and/or Denwood/Marshall. Mr. Maloon said they could install a three-way stop sign at
that intersection and anyplace else Officer Lawson requires; Mr. Feck said he had no
problem putting up stop signs.
Douglas McGee, 40 Smiley Avenue, said he has water problems from Phase I and
suggested the developer be required to finish that project before approving this one. Mr.
Feck said he is working on cleaning up Phase I for town meeting acceptance.
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Ed Gazzaro, 44 Smiley Avenue, abuts Mr. McGee and agreed water collects between the
two properties, and he has been trying to deal with his builder with no success; he said he
was unsure if the problem was with the engineering or the grading.
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Dan Fosse, 47 Marshall Avenue. was concerned the amount offill necessary to bring the
new lots up would cause flooding problems. Mr. Maloon said the lots will have to be
filled, but they will not be discharging more water onto existing lots than currently exists.
Mr. French suggested adding the grades along the back property line of the new lots to
the plans.
Carl Emerick, 11 Denwood Street, asked if the new homes would be developed by same
developer; Mr. Feck said he would be developing and building the new lots.
Mr. French said a number of issues remained unresolved, and the public hearing would
be continued so the applicant could address them and revise the plans.
Mr. Feck said by taking out the cul-de-sac and opening up the road, traffic would be more
spread out; he added he does not believe people will use this as a short cut between Fruit
Street and South Main Street.
Motion: To continue the public hearing to October 17, 2001 at 8:30 p.m
(McShane-Achille) All in favor. PASSES
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The board discussed the issue of drainage areas within subdivisions and with whom the
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Motion: To adjourn at 10:30 p.m. (Torman-Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
Date of next meeting: October 3,2001 at 7:30 p.m
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