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Planning Board Minutes
November 8, 2000 00 DEe - 6 PH 3: 22
Present: H. Thomas French, Chairman~ Bernie Dolan, Clerk~ Scott Frank, Kenneth
Torman, Mark Cook, Thomas McShane MAHSFIELD
Shaun P. Burke, Director of PI ann in and Develo ment MASSACHUSETTS
1. Memo from Board of Selectmen re: Water Connection Policy Workshop, November
16,2000. Mr. McShane and Mr. Dolan will try to attend.
2. Zoning Board of Appeals application for variance - South Main Street - sideyard
setback for an addition
Motion: To send the Zoning Board of Appeals a positive recommendation with the
suggestion the application should have been for a Finding rather than a Variance
because the existing encroachment will not be increased.
(Cook-Torman) All in favor. PASSES
3. Letter from FolkmanlZola Builders re: Surety release, Sturbridge Estates/Memo from
Jack Smith recommending the release following acceptance at Town Meeting
Motion: To release the remaining surety (Dolan-Torman) All in favor. PASSES
4. Letter from Folkman/Zola Builders re: Surety release, Keli GreenlMemo from Jack
Smith recommending the release following acceptance at Town Meeting
Motion: To release the remaining surety (Dolan-Torman) All in favor. PASSES
5. Letter from Folkman/Zola Builders re: Partial release Eastfield Village, Water
system/Memo from Jack Smith recommending partial release
Motion: To release the funds for Noreen Road and Nicole Road water systems
(Dolan-Torman) All in favor. PASSES
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Mr. French and Mr. Frank arrived at 7:45 p.m.
6. Minutes October 25,2000 Motion: To approve as submitted
(Torman-Frank) Three in favor. Dolan, McShane, Cook abstained. PASSES
7. Letter from Mr. Burke to Mr. & Mrs. John Beaton, Foxboro, re: truck traffic
8. Zoning Board of Appeals decision-Smarterkids-145 Plymouth St-Granted
9. Zoning Board of Appeals decision-Town Engineer-Plymouth St Fields-Granted
10. Zoning Board of Appeals decision - Deborah Conway - 474 Franklin St - Denied
11. Access New England newsletter
12. JTPG meeting notice
13. October construction summary
14. Letter from MBTA re: Fall River/New Bedford Commuter Rail Restoration
15. Letter from The Trust for Public Land re: lecture series
16. Memo from DHCD re: Planning services
17. Meeting Notices: Norton Planning Board, North Attleboro Planning Board, Attleboro
ZomngBoardofAppews
18. Waterline newsletter
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20. The Beacon
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21. Transreport newsletter
22. Note from Karl Clemmey re: Sun Chronicle article - cluster zoning
23.2000 Planners Book Service Catalog
The clerk read the public hearing notice.
David Simmons, consultant to the Stop & Shop gas stations, explained the original
station was permitted without signage. They would like to add Stop & Shop logos on the
canopy at this point.
Richard Westergren, Poyant Signs, explained there would be two 3'x6' internally
illuminated signs on the canopy, one on the Route 106 side and one on the parking lot
side. In addition, there will be signs on top of the pumps. Mr. Simmons explained
customers cannot now identify to whom the gas station belongs, and signage would help.
Department Bead Comments
The clerk read comments from Mr. Burke, Mr. Cook, Mr. Sullivan, Chief Sliney, Officer
Lawson, and Gary D' Ambra.
Public Comment
The clerk read letters of support for the project from abutters Don and Robert Currivan.
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Board Comments
Mr. Frank said in the I-I zone, signs can be up to 60 square feet~ these signs will be 18
feet each. Mr. Dolan said he didn't have a problem with the signs as presented, but did
not want raised letters as some gas stations have~ he also said the board would likely have
approved the signs if they had been included in the original permit.
Mr. Frank said the board should consider whether this modification would change the
special permit. Mr. McShane said the board had a long discussion about signage during
the original permitting, and Stop & Shop agreed they would have no signage at the gas
station, since it would be a service to the customers already shopping there.
Mr. Simmons explained that when the project was originally permitted, the gas station
was a new concept, so they weren't positive what they would need. Since then, Stop &
Shop and other retail businesses have begun to do the same thing.
Mr. French asked whether the applicant would be willing to eliminate the center aisle
sandwich-board sign in the center island. Mr. Simmons said he thought the prices are
required to be posted conspicuously, but are on the pumps. Mr. Frank suggested the
removal of the sandwich board sign could be a condition of the modification.
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Mr. McShane said he agreed it was difficult to tell to whom the gas station belongs, but
did not think the signs need to be illuminated. Mr. Simmons said the illumination was
necessary during nighttime hours. He added the gas station is not open later than 10 p.m.,
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though Stop & Shop is open 24 hours. Mr. McShane said he would rather not have a sign
facing Route 106.
Motion: To modify condition #4 of the May 20, 1998 special permit and replace it with
the following: To allow the addition of two (2) three-foot by six-foot (each sign to be no
more than 18 total square feet) internally illuminated signs as presented at the November
8,2000 public hearing, one to be placed on the canopy of the filling station facing Route
106, the second to be placed on the canopy of the filling station facing the existing Stop
& Shop Supermarket parking lot. The signs are to be illuminated only during the hours
of operation of the filling station.
In addition, the applicant will be allowed to add one (1) non-illuminated placard sign on
each pump station, each sign to measure no larger than two feet by three feet, six inches,
as presented at the November 8, 2000 public hearing.
(Dolan-Cook)
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Torman: In favor. There is no detriment to the original special permit.
Cook: In favor. There is no detriment to the original special permit.
Frank: In favor. The modification does not alter the original decision that the special
permit regulations have been met.
McShane: Opposed. There has been no demonstration of a benefit to altering the special
permit.
Dolan: In favor. There is no detriment to the original special permit.
French: In favor. The modification does not change the original special permit findings.
Five in favor. One Opposed. PASSES
The clerk read the public hearing notice. The applicant did not have the certified mailing
receipts~ the board decided to continue with the public hearing and asked the applicant to
provide the receipts.
David Simmons, Tilton and Associates, and David Archibald, representing the property
owner, presented the plan.
Mr. Simmons said the property is in the Reservoir District, and said he found the Zoning
By-Law is confusing regarding this zone. He explained he tried to comply with all
relevant sections.
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When the office park was originally proposed, there were three buildings at 792-800
South Main Street~ this is the third building. The building will be three stories and
approximately 9,266 square feet per floor. Changes have been made to the internal
parking pattern, spaces have been restriped, and spaces have been moved to improve
traffic flow. A traffic study has been submitted, showing no decrease in service at any
intersection.
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Mr. Simmons said the site will be connected to town water, sewer, and electric and is in
compliance with the Massachusetts Stormwater Policy and the Mansfield Stormwater
Management requirements.
The drainage system has been designed for the 25-year storm, but Mr. Simmons said Mr.
Sullivan had been concerned about the 100-year storm overflowing into the Norton
reservoir. A large recharge field has been proposed for all storm water storage, and an
existing natural basin currently takes part of the drainage.
Perc tests have been done, with clean sand and fast rates. Mr. Simmons said they
performed both falling and constant head tests, and found groundwater at 21 feet. He
said based on these perc rates, the outflow parameters will change.
Department Bead Comments
The clerk read memos from Mr. Burke, Officer Lawson, Chief Sliney, Gary D' Ambra,
and Mr. Sullivan. The clerk also read a letter from the applicant in response to Mr.
Burke's comments. Mr. Simmons explained he had addressed some of Mr. Sullivan's
comments, but would have to discuss several others with him. Mr. French urged Mr.
Simmons to get together with Mr. Sullivan.
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Public Comment
Abutter Nancy Gray-McNeeley said she had no objections to the project, but was
concerned about an easement between her property and this land, explaining she needs
the easement for a second access to a project on her land. Mr. Simmons said they have
discussed that, but it has not been finalized, and is not part of this application.
Board Comment
Mr. Frank asked about parking. Mr. Simmons said there is enough parking for the new
building, but that they would provide cross easements between the parcels. He explained
there are 296 proposed parking spaces~ Mr. Dolan and Mr. Frank said they had calculated
304 parking spaces required. Mr. Simmons said he would double-check that.
Mr. Frank asked about the buffer, saying it needs to be one-third of the setback from the
public way, and with a 66-foot setback, a 22-foot buffer would be required~ the plan
shows a 15 foot buffer. Mr. Simmons said 15 feet was all they could fit in, so they would
have to apply for a variance.
Mr. Frank said a tree is required every 27 feet in the divider islands. Mr. Simmons said
they could do that.
Mr. McShane asked about the open space requirements. Mr. Simmons said the entire
parcel has 42 percent open space, and he will provide a detail of that.
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Mr. McShane asked about the drainage system. Mr. Simmons explained the existing
grassy basin takes the sheet flow now~ post-development, that water will go to the new
drainage system. He said when the figures are revised following the perc test results,
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they will show the system can handle the 100-year storm. The system is not within 100
feet of any wetland~ the water currently leaving the site flows onto the abutting property,
and will continue to do so post-development.
Mr. McShane suggested prohibiting the use of salt on the parking lot. Mr. Simmons said
he would make every effort to do that, but was concerned about liability issues. Mr.
Cook said the state uses salt on Route 140, but suggested using calcium chloride or
magnesium chloride.
Mr. Dolan said the plan was incomplete, which has been a topic of discussion lately, and
the applicant should have met with the town engineer and addressed his comments prior
to the public hearing. He said he would not be willing to vote on the plan in its current
state~ he suggested the applicant meet with the town engineer and submit a revised plan at
least one week before the next meeting.
Motion: To continue the public hearing to January 10,2001 at 8:00 p.m.
(Dolan-McShane) All in favor. PASSES
The clerk read the public hearing notice.
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Cynthia Treannie, Hickory Development, explained the application to modify the original
special permit to allow building envelopes on each lot with 30-foot front and rear
setbacks and lO-foot sideyard setbacks. The original plan included footprints, but the
potential buyers want larger homes.
Board Comment
Mr. Frank asked about wetland issues. Ms. Treannie explained lots 5 and 6 have some
wetlands, but those houses would be built on the opposite side of the lots. Mr. Frank was
concerned about the 10-foot sideyard setbacks~ Ms. Treannie said 20-foot setbacks would
be acceptable, and that all of the potential homeowners had been notified of the possible
change.
Department Bead Comments
The clerk read a memorandum from Mr. Burke.
Motion: To grant the Special Permit with the following conditions:
1. Delete condition #6 of the December 17, 1997 special permit and replace it with
the following: Residents will be allowed to construct or modify residential
structures within a building envelope, to be established as a 30-foot setback from
the front and rear property lines and a 20-foot setback from each ofthe side
property lines.
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2. The December 17, 1997 special permit is incorporated into this decision by
reference and attachment, and all terms and conditions of that special permit, with
the exception of condition #6, remain in force.
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r Mr. McShane - In favor. The modification is consistent with the zoning by-law and the
original approval, and provides flexibility for the homeowners.
Mr. Frank - In favor. The modification will have no detrimental impact on the original
special permit.
Dr. Torman - In favor. There is no detriment with the project and it is similar to
previously approved plans.
Mr. Cook - In favor. The modification is consistent with previously approved plans.
Mr. Dolan - In favor. The modification is consistent with the zoning by-law and with
previously approved plans.
Mr. French - In favor. The modification is consistent with the zoning by-law and with
previously approved plans.
All in favor. PASSES
Motion: To close the public hearing (Torman-Dolan) All in favor. PASSES
The board discussed its meeting schedule for the next few months, deciding to post for
November 29, but as there is nothing pending, to cancel the meeting if nothing is
submitted. The next meeting will be December 13.
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The board discussed sending Mr. Sullivan a letter asking whether the subdivision
regulations should be amended to require drainage systems to be designed for the 100-
year storm.
Mr. Cook asked that the definition of fast food be added to the board's work list.
Dr. Torman said he was still concerned about the incomplete state of some of the plans
coming before the board. The board discussed the possibility of having staff meetings for
special permit plans, similar to the practice with site plan applications.
Motion: To adjourn at 10:30 p.m. (Torman-Frank) All in favor. PASSES
Date of next meeting: November 19,2000 at 7:30 p.m.
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